A good light for light painting?
A good light for light painting?
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Ari

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244 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I'd love to be able to take photos like this (pinched from the Random thread, hope that's ok?)

What's a good source of light would you recommend?


Ari

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19,814 posts

244 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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No one at all does this..? confused

5hero

2,788 posts

186 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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It's a secret I think frown

RobbieKB

7,715 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I asked Luc that question on the thread and he said:

luclacey said:
I use the modelling lamp from a strobe.
However, I would like to know what other experience light painters use.

AndWhyNot

2,359 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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The big mistake lots of people make at first (myself included) is to use something that's too dim. You need a lot of light!

I dare say that if Luc had made that shot an hour later using the same settings/ tools/ technique it would have appeared too dark - his light is creating the highlights but it looks like the ambient light is helping with the subject definition.

If you're in a dark place with a light car you can get away with something like a LED worklamp. £10 at Robert Dyas or B&Q should see you good. This will give you hard highlights as opposed to the softer appearance in Luc's shot.

If you like the more diffuse look, get yourself a 12"-15" tupperware cake tin or similar to create a makeshift softbox. Cut the top off and cover it with white ripstop nylon/ sailcloth (think kite fabric or shower curtain). Line it with foil to limit light spill and fill it with a bunch of identical lights (or one very bright lamp). You won't be able to turn it on and off easily so there'll be a lot of trial and error on location. Obviously if you spend more you can avoid the ghetto approach but this should get you running for £35-40.

My arsenal of lights covers most eventualities. For speed in a suburban location at twilight I might use either of the above; to lift the car's dark areas when I'm also trying to capture the sky at high ISO it could be the LED on my iPhone; whilst to get an effective amount of light on the subject from a distance of 10ft in a city centre at f/10 I'd roll out the homebuilt "ShadowKiller 3300" - that number being the light's power in lumens.

Remember, the darker your subject car, the more light you need. The brighter your surroundings, the more light you need. If you need to learn the basics, pick a mid-coloured car in a dark location under a full moon for the easiest set of circumstances.

Start at f/8 and a distance of 8-10ft from the car - this gives your light room to spread evenly and helps avoid your shadows appearing in shot. Walk parallel to the car, starting your lighting a car-length away from the front and continuing a car-length beyond the rear - the highlight is a reflection so needs that extra distance to cover the full length of the car.

You can do all your lighting in a single frame but I (and I think most others, once they've sampled it) prefer to composite several frames for lighting and background. If you get it right on location, PP is very much the easy part.

Blukoo

3,812 posts

226 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Here is an example (although not a good one) of my first attempt at light painting.
This was using a 210 lumen LED Torch I bought at B&Q.



Here is an example after I made myself a softbox from a cardboard box and thin packing material stuff for a diffuser.
Sorry it's a rubbish photo, but it was in my garage and I didn't have much room to move about...


I can't fault or add to the advice AndWhyNot has just given, so i'll leave it at that laugh

Here are the softboxes I made.




Here's another example I found. This was made of a few exposures blended together.



Edited by Blukoo on Thursday 19th July 17:44

kman

1,108 posts

240 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I think its always useful to have an array of lighting tools and modifiers - anything from iphone, to torches to lowel id lights.

5hero

2,788 posts

186 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Great tips there AndWhyNot and Blukoo, thanks wink

Away to have a look at torches now smile

North West Tom

11,713 posts

206 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Not my photo, but this was lit using an iPhone screen with the brightness whacked all the way up!



AndWhyNot

2,359 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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^ As was Dean's cover shot of the MP4 on the (subscriber) cover of Evo #173

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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hey Andy, love the advice here, and the pm on fb too. Will have a good read through that and start getting some equipment together too. I'm sure I'll have some more questions later! (not sure I'll go for the wire wool just yet!)

Ari

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19,814 posts

244 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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That's really interesting, thank you gents.