B & W processing
Discussion
I recently purchased from Amazon, a Kodak T-Max 35 mm B & W film. I took some photoes with my old Pentax and Western light meter and had the film processed at my local ASDA.
Picked them up today, absolutely nothing on the film, NOT EVEN THE FRAME NUMBERS.
I am wondering if they could have processed in in colour developer, and this would this have removed the frame numbers, is there any way of removing (disolving) frame numbers I wonder.
The first bit of the roll of negative which my negatives would have been on, is slightly darker then the rest of the film, but as I said, absolutely nothing on it?
Picked them up today, absolutely nothing on the film, NOT EVEN THE FRAME NUMBERS.
I am wondering if they could have processed in in colour developer, and this would this have removed the frame numbers, is there any way of removing (disolving) frame numbers I wonder.
The first bit of the roll of negative which my negatives would have been on, is slightly darker then the rest of the film, but as I said, absolutely nothing on it?
Simpo Two said:
Seems like you discovered the analogue version of card corruption... maybe some spotty yoof thought 'What's in here?' and opened it...
Sorry about the loss, hope it wasn't anything important.
Nothing important at all, pic of my garage door, but that is another story, where have the frame numbers gone, have managed to find a link direct to Kodak, see if they can offer any ideas.Sorry about the loss, hope it wasn't anything important.
Meanwhile back to the photo shop boss tomorrow and ask some quesions.
All commercially available 35mm film has frame numbers and the manufacturer's name on the edges near the sprocket holes, so it's not an exposure problem. You either have a massive light leak into the back of the camera, something you'd probably easily see if you look at how the door closes, missing foam seals etc, or they processed it wrongly.
As a light leak would be very unlikely to equally expose the film (they tend to be either top or bottom of the film) I'd be pretty certain it was a processing error. In fact, I'm surprised they do B&W, I thought that was specialist stuff these days?
As a light leak would be very unlikely to equally expose the film (they tend to be either top or bottom of the film) I'd be pretty certain it was a processing error. In fact, I'm surprised they do B&W, I thought that was specialist stuff these days?
Edited by -Pete- on Tuesday 29th May 18:50
-Pete- said:
All commercially available 35mm film has frame numbers and the manufacturer's name on the edges near the sprocket holes, so it's not an exposure problem. You either have a massive light leak into the back of the camera, something you'd probably easily see if you look at how the door closes, missing foam seals etc, or they processed it wrongly.
As a light leak would be very unlikely to equally expose the film (they tend to be either top or bottom of the film) I'd be pretty certain it was a processing error. In fact, I'm surprised they do B&W, I thought that was specialist stuff these days?
My first question to the boss tomorrow is "Do you process black and white film?"As a light leak would be very unlikely to equally expose the film (they tend to be either top or bottom of the film) I'd be pretty certain it was a processing error. In fact, I'm surprised they do B&W, I thought that was specialist stuff these days?
Edited by -Pete- on Tuesday 29th May 18:50
If the answer is no, then it will point to a processing error, and I shall be asking for the cost of the film, watch this space.
Re massive light leak, I only shot 4 frames, so,the remainder didnt even leave the cassette. Wasnt even manufactures name either, absolutrly ziltch.
Definitely a processing error I'd say. All the dark areas in a b/w negative are metallic silver created during processing where the light-sensitive silver salt has been exposed to light. This is how the frame numbers and other edge markings are put on the film during manufacture. C41 colour processing bleaches all the silver from the film as part of the process (you are just left with colour dyes) so if you put a normal b/w film through C41 chemistry I would expect it to come out totally blank. (XP2 and other C41-process b/w films are designed with this in mind and the image is formed by dyes not metallic silver.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process
Sorted. Saw the boss today, she fished out the film cassette from the bin and said straight away "It doesnt say C41 on it, so we cant proces it".
No problems full refund for the cost of film, she did add that as they did process it, it may have mucked up the chemicals, whoops, someone is in for a ticking.
Thanks for your input guys.
No problems full refund for the cost of film, she did add that as they did process it, it may have mucked up the chemicals, whoops, someone is in for a ticking.
Thanks for your input guys.
Next time, maybe give http://www.photos2you.co.uk a go.
I can't remember if I've ever used them for B&W, but I've had lots of colour (both slide and print) processed by them in the past, and was always happy.
I can't remember if I've ever used them for B&W, but I've had lots of colour (both slide and print) processed by them in the past, and was always happy.
_dobbo_ said:
My experience would say that in terms of reducing cost and hassle, just make sure you buy C-41 B&W film.
Sending stuff away for processing gets expensive quickly compared to ASDA prices....
Yes, it does make life a lot easier, but they tend to suffer from terrible colour cast when they are printed at high street labs, so I would still have them printed at pro labs. Sending stuff away for processing gets expensive quickly compared to ASDA prices....
_dobbo_ said:
My experience would say that in terms of reducing cost and hassle, just make sure you buy C-41 B&W film.
Sending stuff away for processing gets expensive quickly compared to ASDA prices....
Now I know, and no doubt a young kid will now know he cant process non C41 films.Sending stuff away for processing gets expensive quickly compared to ASDA prices....
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