Equipment Shenanigans

[dibbly dobbler]

I seem to be forever buggering about buying/selling photography gear (much to the dismay of Mrs DD!).

Current plan is to sell the Sigma 10-20, sell the 15-85, sell the 450 kit and buy a 60D and a 10-22

Any thoughts/observations appreciated - good idea or not ?

Who else is needlessly changing things around ? I know I'm not the only one

[Comacchio]

Why not keep the 450 as a backup?

[RobDickinson]

I assume $$ is the reason not to keep the 450?

I'm infrequently changing and upgrading gear, a friend always has 2-3 bodies and a bunch of lenses changing all the time, making money from it too (on our 'ebay').

My plans are to change the 10-20 to something else. Perhaps pick up a 120-300f2.8OS (and sell the 70-200f2.8), prehaps pick up a full frame body, then a 24tse and 85/1.2 lol...

[McMacro]

You forgot to add the mp-e65 into the mix, Mike

What will the 60D give you, that the 450 can't?

[Stiglet80]

Any chance you will accept £50 for the sigma 10-20?

I have been buying photography stuff all night, shame I have nothing to sell to fund it with

[LongQ]

I seem to have bursts of buying activity from time to time but never seem to sell anything.

Sometimes I even use what I buy ..... :|

[GetCarter]

I'm the same with cars. Hopeless case. I've just ordered my 14th since 2001 I tend to keep my photography kit until I don't use it, then I give it away. It's usually far to knackered to sell.

[dibbly dobbler]

Not a case of *needing* to have the cash from the 450 to fund the 60 but it would annoy me to have two bodies lying around - it would seem wasteful as I probably would never use the 450

The 60 has a better sensor, better iso, better fps, better controls, better viewfinder and the flip out screen which I think I would use quite often.

The whole thing is really a quite sensible rationalisation and will only cost a few hundred net. Perfectly sensible

[CarMac]

GetCarter said:

I'm the same with cars. Hopeless case. I've just ordered my 14th since 2001

What have you ordered??

[GetCarter]

CarMac said:

What have you ordered??

RS4 Avant (Had to be an estate for Charlie dog & 4x4 to get me up my 1 in 4 driveway in the snow!). Good news is, I'm first on the UK list. Bad news, Sept 2012.

Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 28th June 08:32

[dibbly dobbler]

McMacro said:

You forgot to add the mp-e65 into the mix, Mike

Know you know as well as I do - that lens is tantamount to cheating! I will be struggling on with my poor man's macro setup (100mm + tubes + ringflash)

ETA - what's all this crazy talk about MKI Golf cabrio's ?! You'll never get the RS4 at this rate!

Edited by dibbly dobbler on Tuesday 28th June 09:21

[dibbly dobbler]

GetCarter said:

RS4 Avant (Had to be an estate for Charlie dog & 4x4 to get me up my 1 in 4 driveway in the snow!). Good news is, I'm first on the UK list. Bad news, Sept 2012.

Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 28th June 08:32

Could be a long winter in the Caterham Steve

You could always slum it in a Range Rover Sport Supercharged - they are meant to be a good wheeze.

[McMacro]

dibbly dobbler said:

ETA - what's all this crazy talk about MKI Golf cabrio's ?! You'll never get the RS4 at this rate!

It's a crush thing, always had a soft spot for them, What's not to love about the MKI . The Mrs is too attached to her car just now, I might have to write it off to get the Audi

Edited by McMacro on Tuesday 28th June 14:45

[rasputin]

I don't get the 60D!

Unless you really want video, what does it give you over the "previous model" 50D? Slightly higher resolution - but IMO micro focus adjustment is so much more important than a slightly bigger but blurry photo.

And slower frame rate than 50D, and plastic body instead of alloy...

[nellyleelephant]

Wasn't the same sort of thing said about the 40D and 50D? Not that much of a leap forward??

[rasputin]

Well - 50D has 50% higher resolution than 40D and micro focus adjustment so you can actually make use of all those pixels. Plus to my eyes it handles high ISO better and the LCD screen is clearer.

IMO the most "logical" upgrade from a 50D is a 7D. The 60D is a bit awkward next to those two.

[14-7]

dibbly dobbler said:

I seem to be forever buggering about buying/selling photography gear (much to the dismay of Mrs DD!).

Current plan is to sell the Sigma 10-20, sell the 15-85, sell the 450 kit and buy a 60D and a 10-22

Any thoughts/observations appreciated - good idea or not ?

Who else is needlessly changing things around ? I know I'm not the only one

Have you thought about forgetting the 10-22 and buying the 16-35mm f2.8 II?

Fantastic lens (although a bit pricey). Currently saving for one myself.

[dibbly dobbler]

rasputin said:

Well - 50D has 50% higher resolution than 40D and micro focus adjustment so you can actually make use of all those pixels. Plus to my eyes it handles high ISO better and the LCD screen is clearer.

IMO the most "logical" upgrade from a 50D is a 7D. The 60D is a bit awkward next to those two.

I kind of hear what you are saying but I am going up from a 450D so a 60D seems like the logical next step - I am used to the plastic body so that's not an issue for me...

[dibbly dobbler]

14-7 said:

Have you thought about forgetting the 10-22 and buying the 16-35mm f2.8 II?

Fantastic lens (although a bit pricey). Currently saving for one myself.

Thanks for the suggestion

I think I would miss the width is the short answer - I didn't find the 15-85 wide enough (which eventually led to its demise) hence a 10-22 seemed like the obvious upgrade for my Sigma 10-20. Both the lenses I'm selling are great so the whole thing is daft really but I have been sorely tempted and am now attempting to rationlise it!

[LongQ]

dibbly dobbler said:

I kind of hear what you are saying but I am going up from a 450D so a 60D seems like the logical next step - I am used to the plastic body so that's not an issue for me...

The flip screen may be a key thing for you DD.

I have a couple of older bridge cameras - a Pro 1 and an S3 IS - both of which have a flip screen and I find the screen very useful on those (recently rare) occasions I use them.

The S3 IS, for example, has a super macro mode that allows focus, in theory, at 0mm. It's no competition for a proper macro lens of course bueing 6Mp and jpg only with no simple external flash capability, but it does make daylight based bug chasing quite fun.

I would imagine using it with liveview on the 60D would be the equivalent of the S3 or better, in which case it should be good for Landscape work (subject to screen brightness vs light levels of course) and add some versatility for things like impromptu low level shots or anything where using the viewfinder is not practical.

That said I would be tempted to keep the 450D as a backup anyway or, as I tend to use my 400D these days, as a second body ready equipped with a different lens for the maximum flaxibility.

I depends how often you might enjoy having that sort of coverage of course but does provide an option to avoid lens swaps in unsuitable conditions.

Plastic body is not a problem. My 400D has had a few tumbles recently and has a number of scratches but still works just fine. I normally leave the fully manual 14mm on it these days with the stuff that can make use of the 1D3's focus system reserved, but not always exclusively, for that body.

I put the 14mm on the 1D3 if I really feel the need for getting closer to the width the lens can manage. (and it's not, at that moment, dusty/extremely wet/etc.)

Iirc the 450 files are not much bigger than a 400D. Not sure about the 60D but the 7D (also 18Mp sensor) produced files 2 to 3 times larger (RAW files, don't think I checked jpgs) then the 400D. Memory card, storage and, perhaps, processing power considerations should not be ignored in your planning.