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Have posted on the Computing forum and decided my G Card is knackered.
But found this card: Is it any good?
I would move to PCI-e but it would be very expensive I think for an equivalent card, new motherboard etc.
Any advice?
Dave.
But found this card: Is it any good?
I would move to PCI-e but it would be very expensive I think for an equivalent card, new motherboard etc.
Any advice?
Dave.
6200 regardless of memory aint that powerfull, try a ATI 9600 AGP they will be the same price and kick the 6200's ass, mabe try and find a 9800 or 9800pro, they are still a very good card.
I mention the ATI cards as they are now a good deal and not a great deal of money even though performance is still very good (better than 6600GT in most applications and 1/3rd less the price)
Hope it helps
I mention the ATI cards as they are now a good deal and not a great deal of money even though performance is still very good (better than 6600GT in most applications and 1/3rd less the price)
Hope it helps
Zod said:
That 6200 is a terrible card. The 9600 mentioned above is ancient, as is the 9800 (though it is reasonably quick still). Get a 6800GS or an X800GTO for a value card. If you want to spend money, go for a 7800GT.
yes all obvious choices, the reason for the "ancient" pointers was becuase AGP is the important part here, 6800GS is not yet out in AGP, although rumoured to be a week or 2 away will be way out of the budget, 7800gt PCIe only with no plans to make a bridged version for AGP, X800GTO, possible but the full blown x800 or 850 is actually more powerfull on AGP and although they may be in tight supply the sellers with them are taking a hit to move the stocks.
the GTO is the new kid but its really just a cut down x800pro.. .. ..
clocking cards is simple, you can even download tools to do it for you nowadays (try www.guru3d.com) only problem, if you push it too far and fry the card, you are on your own.
I wouldn't waste too much money on a fast gfx card in AGP, since it's days are over, and you'll not be able to carry it over to your next system.
I'd purchase a 9800 Pro or 9800 XT or similar (XT has 256mb and the R380 core or something or other)...
You'll get a 9800 Pro on Ebay for £55-60 and it's a proper DX9 card. It has trouble with lots of AA and AF, but it's quick enough for most games with most of the goodies turned on. Make sure it's a 128bit memory one though, some are 64bit and are alot slower for it...
If you get an XT, it's the best 9800 all round with 256 meg, the faster core, and can be overclocked happily by 10-15%... More than enough power unless your a geeky type gamer, and it's well matched to your system then.
I run a 9800 pro with the XT core (r380 or whatnot), and it's clocked to XT speeds and runs GT Legends in 1600x1200 smoothly in medium detail with a few things turned upto high even with 24 car grids etc. Rest of my system is similar to yours except 512meg ram, wheras I have a gig.
Was tempted by upgrading my GFX, but it's just a waste of money getting AGP card for more than £60 these days, as PCI-E is the next gen and your paying for essentially out-dated tech. It's already bad enough with PC components being worthless in no time, so buying a NEW AGP card is just daft imho!
Dave
I'd purchase a 9800 Pro or 9800 XT or similar (XT has 256mb and the R380 core or something or other)...
You'll get a 9800 Pro on Ebay for £55-60 and it's a proper DX9 card. It has trouble with lots of AA and AF, but it's quick enough for most games with most of the goodies turned on. Make sure it's a 128bit memory one though, some are 64bit and are alot slower for it...
If you get an XT, it's the best 9800 all round with 256 meg, the faster core, and can be overclocked happily by 10-15%... More than enough power unless your a geeky type gamer, and it's well matched to your system then.
I run a 9800 pro with the XT core (r380 or whatnot), and it's clocked to XT speeds and runs GT Legends in 1600x1200 smoothly in medium detail with a few things turned upto high even with 24 car grids etc. Rest of my system is similar to yours except 512meg ram, wheras I have a gig.
Was tempted by upgrading my GFX, but it's just a waste of money getting AGP card for more than £60 these days, as PCI-E is the next gen and your paying for essentially out-dated tech. It's already bad enough with PC components being worthless in no time, so buying a NEW AGP card is just daft imho!
Dave
there is no noticable speed diff from AGP to PCIe in like for like cards.
if you get a 9800 check out the memory speeds, and avoid the atlantis Pro versions (cut down) if you get one with a decent memory speed you will be able to clock it to near or at XT speeds anyways as they are all the same chips. memory is usually the deciding factor.
AGP is not dead yet, only 22% of the systems bought in the past 2 years have PCIe, the Nvidias and ATIs of this world will bring out AGP offerings again I gaurantee you.
if you get a 9800 check out the memory speeds, and avoid the atlantis Pro versions (cut down) if you get one with a decent memory speed you will be able to clock it to near or at XT speeds anyways as they are all the same chips. memory is usually the deciding factor.
AGP is not dead yet, only 22% of the systems bought in the past 2 years have PCIe, the Nvidias and ATIs of this world will bring out AGP offerings again I gaurantee you.
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