Xbox360 in stock int he shops!

[remal]

I went into Game in The mall near bristol. asked the manager how long until they have them in stock as I am in no rush to get one before xmas. I did make a comment like "daft questions to ask" before I asked to be told he has a few in stock and would I like one.

OK if I must.

SO where was all the problems about low stock. Got the xbox with hard drive, PGR3 and perfect dark

[off_again]

Ah you git - I am trying to save some cash (two kids can be expensive during christmas) and not get one.... and now you go and tell me they have 'em in stock at the Mall.... Thats going to play on my mind for days now.... git ....

[remal]

I was not going to get one either. got a PS2 , xbox, PC, PSP and 2 kids and a a better half. But she said she would get if for xmas for me.

so why not

But unless the games are played on HD tv or good PC tft then it looks much the same as my PC ( 7800gtx) but better fun when mates come over then the PC

[off_again]

remal said:

But unless the games are played on HD tv or good PC tft then it looks much the same as my PC ( 7800gtx) but better fun when mates come over then the PC

Well, funny you say that - X800Pro(O/c'ed) and a LCD HDTV.... so it better look good

Oh bugger - wheres my credit card...?

[remal]

[DucatiGary]

Microsoft have release the controller for PC.

at the end of the day the eggs box 360 is a limited use cut down PC, why cut corners, upgrade your PC above the spec of the 360, get windose MCE and the xbox controller for PC then you are sorted.

better all round IMHO

and yes the 360 is useless without HDTV, if you aint got a HDTV compatible TV or high def low response LCD monitor (with adaptor to convert YpRpB to your computer monitor) its not worth buying one.

PC is where the most powerfull gaming experience will always be.

its like HI FI, you either buy a cheap one box unit (Xbox360) or go seperates and have the best of everything.

[TheLemming]

DucatiGary said:

Microsoft have release the controller for PC. at the end of the day the eggs box 360 is a limited use cut down PC, why cut corners, upgrade your PC above the spec of the 360, get windose MCE and the xbox controller for PC then you are sorted. better all round IMHO and yes the 360 is useless without HDTV, if you aint got a HDTV compatible TV or high def low response LCD monitor (with adaptor to convert YpRpB to your computer monitor) its not worth buying one. PC is where the most powerfull gaming experience will always be. its like HI FI, you either buy a cheap one box unit (Xbox360) or go seperates and have the best of everything.

The point of the random diatribe on this thread was?

Limited use? It plays games and movies. Thats all we ask of a games console.

Price wise, you could happily build a gaming PC with a much higher performance than the Xbox 360. Just add a zero onto the Xbox price to do so.

Bet you dont have a 360 do you Gary? :P

[TonyToniTone]

DucatiGary said:

..Nonsense.

What an idiotic post, what your point?

The core system is the same price as a decent graphics card, and the 360 isn't PC architecture, and typing windoze is pathetic..

And no its not useless without a HDTV as I have just being playing one on a Panasonic TX32PG50 just fine..

EDIT:
Fans is very noisy tho..



>> Edited by TonyToniTone on Tuesday 6th December 20:07

[theRossatron]

The good thing about the 360 over a PC is developers will have time to optimise for a specific platform. This just isn't possible with the range or CPUs, Graphics cards, motherboards, types or RAM etc for the PC.

[DucatiGary]

TheLemming said:

Bet you dont have a 360 do you Gary? :P

I dont have one now as it happens but I had one for review 2 weeks ago.

yes its a console and not a PC granted, but the xbox360 is basically a cut down PC with limited functionality.

I tried it on my non hdtv and the graphics where not too far from normal console graphics to say the least, the jagged edges let it down, you cant take that away from me unless you have not seen it on a HDTV.. .. .. nothing really special about it but on hdtv it came to life and I could see what the fuss was all about, seems that Anti Aliasing and the other rendering technology was lost unless you plugged it into a hdtv.

[DucatiGary]

with the above post said, it is still no where near the depth of realism and performance of my laptop, comparing it to my PC would be unfair

[trooperiziz]

DucatiGary said:

and yes the 360 is useless without HDTV, if you aint got a HDTV compatible TV or high def low response LCD monitor (with adaptor to convert YpRpB to your computer monitor) its not worth buying one.

Unless, of course, you want to play some of the games released on it. But nobody worries about that do they? It's all about the specs...

[UKBob]

DucatiGary said:

yadda yadda... its not worth buying one.

I'll bet less than 1% of PC gamers actually have a PC (and a PC game) which looks as good and plays as smoothly as the 360 titles.

HD is the future. Nearly everyone with an xbox has either upgraded, will be doing so soon, or has plans to do so in the not too distant future as prices continue to tumble. Its all good stuff, and you'd be surprised how many teenagers have got together the cash to buy themselves a HDTV already.

Either way, a nice 28" HD telly and 360 will be half the price of a PC capable of matching its power, plus you have the bigger screen... I cant see the problem, like I said its all good stuff!

[Shirkin]

Can anyone tell me if the picture quality will be better than a normal TV if I plug a 360 into an LCD PC TFT?

[tim2100]

DucatiGary said:

with the above post said, it is still no where near the depth of realism and performance of my laptop, comparing it to my PC would be unfair

Blimey. The Xbox has 3 CPU's, 3.2Ghtz. and your laptop has better game performance as well as running windows?? (Sorry windose )

Please tell me the spec of your laptop I must rush out and buy one now!!!

[Rob P]

Calm down guys!

Its not all about specs is it?

IMO your choice of games is the defining factor. If you want ultra-realistic car games (GTR, GLT etc), flight sims and stratergy games then the PC is the choice. Yeah you pay for it but its more upgradable, has more uses in general terms. The games are more expandable and a PC often offers a better set-up for steering wheels

Consoles are more arcady but are much better for multiplayer and shooters. Plus the price is much more wallet friendly! With Live on the xbox you get the add-ons (new cars, tracks etc) but still not up to the huge 3rd party following some PC games get.

In summary, buy both

[UKBob]

Shirkin said:

Can anyone tell me if the picture quality will be better than a normal TV if I plug a 360 into an LCD PC TFT?

Yes, 5 times better, literally. As good as any HD TV

The 360 lets you configure the resolution on the system. The only thing you will need is a VGA cable. Stocks of these cables are limited, and retail for £20. You will be able to play in hi def, and it will look stunning. The bigger the LCD monitor the better

[DucatiGary]

tim2100 said:

Please tell me the spec of your laptop I must rush out and buy one now!!!

Ok spec for my reliable everyday work laptop

Since I work for a manufacturer of board level components supplying the gaming industry (dont want to give any more away than that sorry) I managed to get a few bits from the vendors we are tied in with.

I have a bare bones chassis from www.clevo.com.tw , it is the D910T and has the 17" widescreen tft with glass screen 1650x1024 pixels and webcam built in.
Intel gave me a sample of a P4 Extreme Edition 3.7 (for testing purposes obviously)
2 gig DDR2 533 notebook memory (corsiar, had to buy this)
2 Hitachi 7200 RPM notebook hard drives in Raid 0 (again bought but the unit has mobile SATA support just I couldnt find the drives at the time)
Nvidia GO7800GTX 256mb MXM Mobile PCIx card (free sample again from Nv)
2 NEC DVDRW (bought)
Winows XP Pro (even though MS gave me the xbox360 for testing they would not give me the copy of XP for free)

i think thats the main gubbins .. .. ..

www.rockdirect.com sell this same clevo bare bones as their top end system, you can have dual core AMD cpu in them too now.

i think they sell pretty much the same spec but not with the Intel Extreme Edition CPU in.. .. .. .. also, go ask anyone with 2 ounces of knowledge if the IBM powerPC CPU would outperform the highest speed P4 EE cpu they will ever make? me thinks not.. ..

[Raify]

And you can buy that Lapdog for £375 can you?!

[DucatiGary]

also for the record the xbox360 IBM made CPU has symetrical 3 cores running at a theoretical 3.2gig each, not 3 CPU's

the EE 3.7 from intel has 4mb L2 cache, with hyperthreading, and lots of other techie tricks that IBM are unable to produce, and with hyperthreading it makes the EE a theoretical 2 core system.

Hope this clears up any illusions.