x-box 360 home-made box lunacy on ebay

x-box 360 home-made box lunacy on ebay

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mr2aw11

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811 posts

230 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Here's a curious ebay sale for anyone wanting a 360... (box, that is. And home-made, at that!)

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&[/url]

I think 'bonkers' aptly describes this one...

UKBob

16,277 posts

272 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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mr2aw11 said:
I think 'bonkers' aptly describes this one...
Or genuis.

People have been selling crap on ebay (with no intention to defraud) for a fortune, for years. Its time us PHers clubbed together, made our own cardboard car collections, and flogged em for millions on ebay. I bags the cardboard speed 12 project

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

284 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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I think that sails a bit close to the wind witrh regard to fraud. Its clear he hopes to sell to some of the manu eedjits who bid on stuff based just on the item description without readin the small (or not so small) print. No doubt he'll make a few quid, but its surely a scam.

[Edited to add]Obviously one of the aformentioned eedjits, I failed to notice that the auction had ended, and he made $611 off it!


>> Edited by victormeldrew on Monday 5th December 15:28

therossatron

1,028 posts

239 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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This neither bonkers or genius. It's a deliberate attempt to defraud people with a shockingly misleading advert. I don't see anything clever about scamming some poor mum £300 and delivering a cardboard box to their kids on xmas day.

Scum all of them! These idiots need to learn how to make a living honestly.

UKBob

16,277 posts

272 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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therossatron said:
This neither bonkers or genius. It's a deliberate attempt to defraud people with a shockingly misleading advert. I don't see anything clever about scamming some poor mum £300 and delivering a cardboard box to their kids on xmas day.

Scum all of them! These idiots need to learn how to make a living honestly.
I see your point.

On the one hand, he stated blatantly again and again, the box contained nothing, it was empty, its a home made box, theres nothing in it etc etc etc...

But I suppose an unfortunate mother could end up buying it, without reading the ad.

Jaglover

43,834 posts

242 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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therossatron said:
This neither bonkers or genius. It's a deliberate attempt to defraud people with a shockingly misleading advert. I don't see anything clever about scamming some poor mum £300 and delivering a cardboard box to their kids on xmas day.

Scum all of them! These idiots need to learn how to make a living honestly.


In this case it is a tax on stupidity.

He has made it perfectly clear what he is selling.

therossatron

1,028 posts

239 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!

I have no problem with people selling crap on ebay - bucket of water, advertising space on breasts! I'm all for it.

It's people like that that give ebay a bad name and make other customers wary of buying from the genuine people out there.

UKBob

16,277 posts

272 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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therossatron said:
Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!


Well, not really. He is actually relying on a very large dose of stupidity, nothing less

lockstock2sb

2,855 posts

250 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Either way the fecker needs a good shoeing. Out of order !

therossatron

1,028 posts

239 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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UKBob said:
therossatron said:
Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!


Well, not really. He is actually relying on a very large dose of stupidity, nothing less


But do you think anyone in their right mind would pay £300 for an empty cardboard box? He wants people to think they are buying a 360 plain and simple!

Mislead: to lead into a mistaken action or belief. :P

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

284 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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therossatron said:
UKBob said:
therossatron said:
Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!


Well, not really. He is actually relying on a very large dose of stupidity, nothing less


But do you think anyone in their right mind would pay £300 for an empty cardboard box? He wants people to think they are buying a 360 plain and simple!

Mislead: to lead into a mistaken action or belief. :P
Agreed. That's why he has quoted large tracts of xbox 360 specs from Microsoft. Its an attempt to get people NOT to read the stuff that says its a plain old cardboard box. Confusion by obfuscation.

Yes, you'd be stupid not to notice, but there are a lot of people who are [stupid], and there is a lot of release hysteria about the xbox 360. He's hoping people will skim read then bid quick before someone else does - yes, that would be stupid too but we've already established the gullibility of his prey. This is the very basis of a scam - any scam. You'd be stupid to reales bank details to anyone from Nigeria with 23 million in funds, but people still do.

Calling the victims stupid does not alter the fact that this is sharp practice, possibly fraud, a certainly a scam.

TheLemming

4,319 posts

272 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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victormeldrew said:
therossatron said:
UKBob said:
therossatron said:
Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!


Well, not really. He is actually relying on a very large dose of stupidity, nothing less


But do you think anyone in their right mind would pay £300 for an empty cardboard box? He wants people to think they are buying a 360 plain and simple!

Mislead: to lead into a mistaken action or belief. :P
Agreed. That's why he has quoted large tracts of xbox 360 specs from Microsoft. Its an attempt to get people NOT to read the stuff that says its a plain old cardboard box. Confusion by obfuscation.

Yes, you'd be stupid not to notice, but there are a lot of people who are [stupid], and there is a lot of release hysteria about the xbox 360. He's hoping people will skim read then bid quick before someone else does - yes, that would be stupid too but we've already established the gullibility of his prey. This is the very basis of a scam - any scam. You'd be stupid to reales bank details to anyone from Nigeria with 23 million in funds, but people still do.

Calling the victims stupid does not alter the fact that this is sharp practice, possibly fraud, a certainly a scam.


I wouldnt say that this one really falls clearly into the "scam" category.

After all, he does state repeatedly it ""DOESNT" contain this, I made this just now, at home" etc.

Really if someone pays up for that one consider it an expensive education. Always read the smallprint...

Bear in mind that people have, on many occasions on Ebay paid several dollars for a dollar bill, several pounds for a pound...

A friend of my sisters, as I mentioned on PH not long ago, bought an Xbox box on ebay (ie the plastic case all the gubbins were in, not the cardboard box). She thought it was an actual Xbox. he auction may have hoped to mislead, but was stated clearly in many places that this was the Xbox shell and that he'd used the internals on some project or another.
My verdict? Read the smallprint!

FunkyNige

9,168 posts

282 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Wasn't the only one...

http://members.cox.net/boxonly/

mr2aw11

Original Poster:

811 posts

230 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Might be relevent that both the seller and winning bidder for this item are no longer registered users - methinks the transaction might not have been honoured.

HearingAidBeige

3,632 posts

234 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Good luck to the guy. He clearly states a number of times, that the auction is just for a box.
If a bidder doesnt read the item description properly, then the blame falls entirely on their shoulders.

theRossatron

1,028 posts

239 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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I can't believe the support for this scammer. I'm sure you'd be saying different for the clever guy who steals your car or the genius who sells you a Cat D as a straight example because legally they don't have to tell you unless you ask.

As someone sensibly said the guy quotes all the tech spec jargon so there are masses and masses of text.

towman

14,938 posts

246 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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A scam is when you buy somethng and don`t get it.
Stupidity is the willingness to spend $300 without reading exactly what you are getting.
A scam is when you don`t describe what you are selling correctly.
Stupidity is heightened by greed.

Fair play. I hope the the seller and others like him get their money.

As someone else said - a tax on the stupid.

hedders

24,460 posts

254 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Well, his account has been closed!

He had a good history up until this auction too, strange.

KB_S1

5,967 posts

236 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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It's not even small print, it is clearly stated. Did he do this as a joke expecting to get a tenner?

On the plus side, I only realised after looking at this that the X Box 360 is based on the same chip as a Mac G5.

HearingAidBeige

3,632 posts

234 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Hmmmm..I wonder if their's a sucker out there who's looking for a battered Atari Jaguar box??? The console was chucked out years ago