x-box 360 home-made box lunacy on ebay
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Here's a curious ebay sale for anyone wanting a 360... (box, that is. And home-made, at that!)
[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&[/url]
I think 'bonkers' aptly describes this one...
[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&[/url]
I think 'bonkers' aptly describes this one...
mr2aw11 said:Or genuis.
I think 'bonkers' aptly describes this one...
People have been selling crap on ebay (with no intention to defraud) for a fortune, for years. Its time us PHers clubbed together, made our own cardboard car collections, and flogged em for millions on ebay. I bags the cardboard speed 12 project
I think that sails a bit close to the wind witrh regard to fraud. Its clear he hopes to sell to some of the manu eedjits who bid on stuff based just on the item description without readin the small (or not so small) print. No doubt he'll make a few quid, but its surely a scam.
[Edited to add]Obviously one of the aformentioned eedjits, I failed to notice that the auction had ended, and he made $611 off it!
>> Edited by victormeldrew on Monday 5th December 15:28
[Edited to add]Obviously one of the aformentioned eedjits, I failed to notice that the auction had ended, and he made $611 off it!
>> Edited by victormeldrew on Monday 5th December 15:28
This neither bonkers or genius. It's a deliberate attempt to defraud people with a shockingly misleading advert. I don't see anything clever about scamming some poor mum £300 and delivering a cardboard box to their kids on xmas day.
Scum all of them! These idiots need to learn how to make a living honestly.
Scum all of them! These idiots need to learn how to make a living honestly.
therossatron said:I see your point.
This neither bonkers or genius. It's a deliberate attempt to defraud people with a shockingly misleading advert. I don't see anything clever about scamming some poor mum £300 and delivering a cardboard box to their kids on xmas day.
Scum all of them! These idiots need to learn how to make a living honestly.
On the one hand, he stated blatantly again and again, the box contained nothing, it was empty, its a home made box, theres nothing in it etc etc etc...
But I suppose an unfortunate mother could end up buying it, without reading the ad.
therossatron said:
This neither bonkers or genius. It's a deliberate attempt to defraud people with a shockingly misleading advert. I don't see anything clever about scamming some poor mum £300 and delivering a cardboard box to their kids on xmas day.
Scum all of them! These idiots need to learn how to make a living honestly.
In this case it is a tax on stupidity.
He has made it perfectly clear what he is selling.
Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!
I have no problem with people selling crap on ebay - bucket of water, advertising space on breasts! I'm all for it.
It's people like that that give ebay a bad name and make other customers wary of buying from the genuine people out there.
I have no problem with people selling crap on ebay - bucket of water, advertising space on breasts! I'm all for it.
It's people like that that give ebay a bad name and make other customers wary of buying from the genuine people out there.
UKBob said:
therossatron said:
Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!
Well, not really. He is actually relying on a very large dose of stupidity, nothing less
But do you think anyone in their right mind would pay £300 for an empty cardboard box? He wants people to think they are buying a 360 plain and simple!
Mislead: to lead into a mistaken action or belief. :P
therossatron said:Agreed. That's why he has quoted large tracts of xbox 360 specs from Microsoft. Its an attempt to get people NOT to read the stuff that says its a plain old cardboard box. Confusion by obfuscation.
UKBob said:
therossatron said:
Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!
Well, not really. He is actually relying on a very large dose of stupidity, nothing less
But do you think anyone in their right mind would pay £300 for an empty cardboard box? He wants people to think they are buying a 360 plain and simple!
Mislead: to lead into a mistaken action or belief. :P
Yes, you'd be stupid not to notice, but there are a lot of people who are [stupid], and there is a lot of release hysteria about the xbox 360. He's hoping people will skim read then bid quick before someone else does - yes, that would be stupid too but we've already established the gullibility of his prey. This is the very basis of a scam - any scam. You'd be stupid to reales bank details to anyone from Nigeria with 23 million in funds, but people still do.
Calling the victims stupid does not alter the fact that this is sharp practice, possibly fraud, a certainly a scam.
victormeldrew said:
therossatron said:Agreed. That's why he has quoted large tracts of xbox 360 specs from Microsoft. Its an attempt to get people NOT to read the stuff that says its a plain old cardboard box. Confusion by obfuscation.
UKBob said:
therossatron said:
Perfectly clear? The guy is relying on misleading people deliberately!
Well, not really. He is actually relying on a very large dose of stupidity, nothing less
But do you think anyone in their right mind would pay £300 for an empty cardboard box? He wants people to think they are buying a 360 plain and simple!
Mislead: to lead into a mistaken action or belief. :P
Yes, you'd be stupid not to notice, but there are a lot of people who are [stupid], and there is a lot of release hysteria about the xbox 360. He's hoping people will skim read then bid quick before someone else does - yes, that would be stupid too but we've already established the gullibility of his prey. This is the very basis of a scam - any scam. You'd be stupid to reales bank details to anyone from Nigeria with 23 million in funds, but people still do.
Calling the victims stupid does not alter the fact that this is sharp practice, possibly fraud, a certainly a scam.
I wouldnt say that this one really falls clearly into the "scam" category.
After all, he does state repeatedly it ""DOESNT" contain this, I made this just now, at home" etc.
Really if someone pays up for that one consider it an expensive education. Always read the smallprint...
Bear in mind that people have, on many occasions on Ebay paid several dollars for a dollar bill, several pounds for a pound...
A friend of my sisters, as I mentioned on PH not long ago, bought an Xbox box on ebay (ie the plastic case all the gubbins were in, not the cardboard box). She thought it was an actual Xbox. he auction may have hoped to mislead, but was stated clearly in many places that this was the Xbox shell and that he'd used the internals on some project or another.
My verdict? Read the smallprint!
I can't believe the support for this scammer. I'm sure you'd be saying different for the clever guy who steals your car or the genius who sells you a Cat D as a straight example because legally they don't have to tell you unless you ask.
As someone sensibly said the guy quotes all the tech spec jargon so there are masses and masses of text.
As someone sensibly said the guy quotes all the tech spec jargon so there are masses and masses of text.
A scam is when you buy somethng and don`t get it.
Stupidity is the willingness to spend $300 without reading exactly what you are getting.
A scam is when you don`t describe what you are selling correctly.
Stupidity is heightened by greed.
Fair play. I hope the the seller and others like him get their money.
As someone else said - a tax on the stupid.
Stupidity is the willingness to spend $300 without reading exactly what you are getting.
A scam is when you don`t describe what you are selling correctly.
Stupidity is heightened by greed.
Fair play. I hope the the seller and others like him get their money.
As someone else said - a tax on the stupid.
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