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PeteinSQ

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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I'm planning on getting a new gaming PC. Primarily this is to play Cities Skylines II on, but I'm sure I'll find some other things to play too. First off is it up to the task of playing Cities Skylines II? Secondly anywhere I've gone obviously wrong?

https://www.chillblast.com/all-gaming-systems/star...


Donbot

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137 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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How does a pc with an rtx 3050 in it come to £1150!

Actually I see you are buying windows and stuff.

That processor will be fine with the stock cooler. So that's a waste of money. 64 GB of ram seems a bit excessive. Not sure what the point of fancy thermal paste is.

If you're going to be spending over a grand on a pc you might as well up the budget on the graphics card, as a 3050 is a weak card.

Maybe an rx6700xt or something.

Edited by Donbot on Thursday 5th October 16:40


Edited by Donbot on Thursday 5th October 16:41

PeteinSQ

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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I didn't actually write the spec, my son did....

Ok I'll try to pull something together around a better GPU.

You do need to buy windows don't you?

Donbot

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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You can use it without licence. You just can't change the background. A cheap key from a genuine seller is another option.

Silverbullet767

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PeteinSQ

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Is that a good alternative? I'm completely clueless (if you hadn't guessed)....

Donbot

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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CPU is on the weak side for a 4070. Though if you are playing at above 1080p resolutions I'd guess it would be fine. Could always upgrade the CPU down the line. Has 2 spare RAM slots for another 2x8Gb if needed.

Mobo doesn't have wifi which would annoy me.

Seems ok at a glance though.

IanH755

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130 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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The overall computer is fairly similar (smaller hard drive, less RAM at 16GB but still a large amount - 64GB was utterly excessive) but the Nvidia 4070 graphics card is anywhere from 150% to 300% better in games over the original Nvidia 3050 in your OG post which makes that PC a really strong buy, and it'll play Skylines II easily.

I've bought from Scan before and they are within my top 3 companies to buy from for PC components.

The only issue is that a lot of the components that make up the core of the Scan PC (CPU, motherboard & RAM) are all "end of life" i.e. there is no way to upgrade them for the "next gen" versions which are already out if that is the sort of thing you'd be interested in doing (although you said PC's are outside your wheelhouse).

So if in say, 3 years, you wanted to upgrade the Graphics then you could do that, but can't upgrade the CPU for a faster one but you could get one of the same generation but with more cores (if you fancy learning), or change the RAM for faster versions etc. So overall you've got a really good spec for the price in that Scan PC but it's not got much "future-proofing" should you wish to update stuff years later.

PeteinSQ

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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Thanks. I'll probably order that one from Scan then unless someone wants to suggest an alternative. I wonder if they'll make one like but a bit less mental with LEDs...

Donbot

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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There might be a button on the case to turn them off. Or a fan controller box in the case.

My PC has a stupid blue glow that I can't do anything about short of changing the fans. Thankfully it lives behind the desk so I don't have to look at it.

Silverbullet767

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216 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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IanH755 said:
The overall computer is fairly similar (smaller hard drive, less RAM at 16GB but still a large amount - 64GB was utterly excessive) but the Nvidia 4070 graphics card is anywhere from 150% to 300% better in games over the original Nvidia 3050 in your OG post which makes that PC a really strong buy, and it'll play Skylines II easily.

I've bought from Scan before and they are within my top 3 companies to buy from for PC components.

The only issue is that a lot of the components that make up the core of the Scan PC (CPU, motherboard & RAM) are all "end of life" i.e. there is no way to upgrade them for the "next gen" versions which are already out if that is the sort of thing you'd be interested in doing (although you said PC's are outside your wheelhouse).

So if in say, 3 years, you wanted to upgrade the Graphics then you could do that, but can't upgrade the CPU for a faster one but you could get one of the same generation but with more cores (if you fancy learning), or change the RAM for faster versions etc. So overall you've got a really good spec for the price in that Scan PC but it's not got much "future-proofing" should you wish to update stuff years later.
RE: the CPU. The 5800X3D is still AM4 socket, so upgradable on this system. And is still one of the best gaming CPUs money can buy. RAM won't be a problem for years yet. WiFi is easily added.

My current system is
5800x
32gb 3600mhz cl16
RTX 3080

This can run all modern games on ultra at 1440p well over 60fps.

PeteinSQ

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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So just to be clear. You have to run an ethernet cable for internet on this machine?

Silverbullet767

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216 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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On that system I posted from scan I'd want to be running at 1440p resolution. As suggested above if you run at 1080p you'll be CPU limited rather than GPU limited. With that system having a stronger GPU you'll want to run at least 1440p. Do you know the resolution of your monitor?

Donbot

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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PeteinSQ said:
So just to be clear. You have to run an ethernet cable for internet on this machine?
Yes. Or buy a wifi card for about £20 to put in it.

Edit - having a look at the side pic a card will block the GPU fans. So might be better with external USB.

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Donbot

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Silverbullet767 said:
RE: the CPU. The 5800X3D is still AM4 socket, so upgradable on this system. And is still one of the best gaming CPUs money can buy. RAM won't be a problem for years yet. WiFi is easily added.
I had a look for socket power on the board above and couldn't find anything. Just says Ryzen 5 compatible. Will the board properly support a 5800X3D?

PeteinSQ

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Silverbullet767 said:
On that system I posted from scan I'd want to be running at 1440p resolution. As suggested above if you run at 1080p you'll be CPU limited rather than GPU limited. With that system having a stronger GPU you'll want to run at least 1440p. Do you know the resolution of your monitor?
That's also to be acquired. What's the ideal one to go with this system (without totally bankrupting me)

Silverbullet767

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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Donbot said:
I had a look for socket power on the board above and couldn't find anything. Just says Ryzen 5 compatible. Will the board properly support a 5800X3D?
With the BIOS updated. It should. Mine does and it didn't support it out the box

Donbot

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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Silverbullet767 said:
Donbot said:
I had a look for socket power on the board above and couldn't find anything. Just says Ryzen 5 compatible. Will the board properly support a 5800X3D?
With the BIOS updated. It should. Mine does and it didn't support it out the box
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Silverbullet767

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Thursday 5th October 2023
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PeteinSQ said:
That's also to be acquired. What's the ideal one to go with this system (without totally bankrupting me)
You don't need to go with this brand, I'd be looking for 120hz+ monitors.

I bought this one. https://amzn.eu/d/iYc6V9P

but some suggestions below.

27" - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/27-asrock-pg27q15r...

32" - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/315-asrock-pg32qf2...

PeteinSQ

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Friday 6th October 2023
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Thanks again.