Starfield : Bethesda's space game
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Leaked images from a 2018 build, but more to come soon at E3 !
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Lets face it, its going to be complete arse.
Honestly dont think Bethesda has the capability, desire or consumer interest to release a fully fleshed out & functioning product. They are unbelievably complacent and will just assume its going to be a success, so why try harder.
Ultimately it will be a patchwork quilt of half baked ideas and puddle deep grind based gameplay, chopped up a thousand different ways to ensure they can monetise almost every aspect and push the consumer into additional cash purchases from the in game store!
It will launch broken yet the critics will give it top scores and the paying public will be left feeling cheated. It will slowly get patched endlessly over the following years, but for every patch released something else will get broken. Bethesda will move quickly to fix any exploits that might mean players level too quickly, or avoid having to resort to paid extras but will consistently ignore bay 1 bugs that improve the quality of life for the player or enhance the game.
You just need to look at the state of Fallout 76 years after launch to know how this new IP will go. This will basically be Fallout 76 in space.
I will pass thanks!
Honestly dont think Bethesda has the capability, desire or consumer interest to release a fully fleshed out & functioning product. They are unbelievably complacent and will just assume its going to be a success, so why try harder.
Ultimately it will be a patchwork quilt of half baked ideas and puddle deep grind based gameplay, chopped up a thousand different ways to ensure they can monetise almost every aspect and push the consumer into additional cash purchases from the in game store!
It will launch broken yet the critics will give it top scores and the paying public will be left feeling cheated. It will slowly get patched endlessly over the following years, but for every patch released something else will get broken. Bethesda will move quickly to fix any exploits that might mean players level too quickly, or avoid having to resort to paid extras but will consistently ignore bay 1 bugs that improve the quality of life for the player or enhance the game.
You just need to look at the state of Fallout 76 years after launch to know how this new IP will go. This will basically be Fallout 76 in space.
I will pass thanks!
moustachebandit said:
Lets face it, its going to be complete arse.
Honestly dont think Bethesda has the capability, desire or consumer interest to release a fully fleshed out & functioning product. They are unbelievably complacent and will just assume its going to be a success, so why try harder.
Ultimately it will be a patchwork quilt of half baked ideas and puddle deep grind based gameplay, chopped up a thousand different ways to ensure they can monetise almost every aspect and push the consumer into additional cash purchases from the in game store!
It will launch broken yet the critics will give it top scores and the paying public will be left feeling cheated. It will slowly get patched endlessly over the following years, but for every patch released something else will get broken. Bethesda will move quickly to fix any exploits that might mean players level too quickly, or avoid having to resort to paid extras but will consistently ignore bay 1 bugs that improve the quality of life for the player or enhance the game.
You just need to look at the state of Fallout 76 years after launch to know how this new IP will go. This will basically be Fallout 76 in space.
I will pass thanks!
Now that Bethesda is owned by Microsoft, coupled with how important a successful launch of Starfield will be for both the new XBOX and Gamepass, they won't be allowed to bodge this one. Honestly dont think Bethesda has the capability, desire or consumer interest to release a fully fleshed out & functioning product. They are unbelievably complacent and will just assume its going to be a success, so why try harder.
Ultimately it will be a patchwork quilt of half baked ideas and puddle deep grind based gameplay, chopped up a thousand different ways to ensure they can monetise almost every aspect and push the consumer into additional cash purchases from the in game store!
It will launch broken yet the critics will give it top scores and the paying public will be left feeling cheated. It will slowly get patched endlessly over the following years, but for every patch released something else will get broken. Bethesda will move quickly to fix any exploits that might mean players level too quickly, or avoid having to resort to paid extras but will consistently ignore bay 1 bugs that improve the quality of life for the player or enhance the game.
You just need to look at the state of Fallout 76 years after launch to know how this new IP will go. This will basically be Fallout 76 in space.
I will pass thanks!
moustachebandit said:
Lets face it, its going to be complete arse.
Honestly dont think Bethesda has the capability, desire or consumer interest to release a fully fleshed out & functioning product. They are unbelievably complacent and will just assume its going to be a success, so why try harder.
Ultimately it will be a patchwork quilt of half baked ideas and puddle deep grind based gameplay, chopped up a thousand different ways to ensure they can monetise almost every aspect and push the consumer into additional cash purchases from the in game store!
It will launch broken yet the critics will give it top scores and the paying public will be left feeling cheated. It will slowly get patched endlessly over the following years, but for every patch released something else will get broken. Bethesda will move quickly to fix any exploits that might mean players level too quickly, or avoid having to resort to paid extras but will consistently ignore bay 1 bugs that improve the quality of life for the player or enhance the game.
You just need to look at the state of Fallout 76 years after launch to know how this new IP will go. This will basically be Fallout 76 in space.
I will pass thanks!
Pretty much my thoughts too.Honestly dont think Bethesda has the capability, desire or consumer interest to release a fully fleshed out & functioning product. They are unbelievably complacent and will just assume its going to be a success, so why try harder.
Ultimately it will be a patchwork quilt of half baked ideas and puddle deep grind based gameplay, chopped up a thousand different ways to ensure they can monetise almost every aspect and push the consumer into additional cash purchases from the in game store!
It will launch broken yet the critics will give it top scores and the paying public will be left feeling cheated. It will slowly get patched endlessly over the following years, but for every patch released something else will get broken. Bethesda will move quickly to fix any exploits that might mean players level too quickly, or avoid having to resort to paid extras but will consistently ignore bay 1 bugs that improve the quality of life for the player or enhance the game.
You just need to look at the state of Fallout 76 years after launch to know how this new IP will go. This will basically be Fallout 76 in space.
I will pass thanks!
FourWheelDrift said:
Fallout 76 was given with a load of Fallout 4 assets to a newly bought studio. Unlikely the same team still doing Fallout 76 will be the same team doing Starfield.
The fact that they can take one of their biggest IP’s newest titles and then hand it off to an unproven studio to develop says all you need to know about Bethesda. But let’s face it even their A team worked on it(if they have one) i would be just as shambolic. Years after release fallout 76 is still half the game it could and should have been, and is still plagued with inept management decisions, poor game design, bugs and an endless push to nickel and dime the consumer and actively modify the game to influence in game purchases.
To think there will be some seismic shift in company attitude or capability to deliver (irrespective of new owners, huge investment or past failures) is wishful thinking.
Edited by moustachebandit on Monday 17th May 22:52
I played Skyrim to death, fallout 3 and every expansion pack, New Vegas, and fallout 4 and every expansion pack.
Elder Scrolls online and Fallout 76 were enough for me to never buy a Bethesda game again , utterly awful. If it's on gamepass I'll try it but it will have to be very good to bother with it.
Echoing comments about cyberpunk too. I genuinely don't get it, I bought it at release, almost unplayable, loads of game breaking glitches in the first hour of play how on earth can that get accepted by testers? The whole push it out and patch it needs to be stopped. Glitches aside I think it's crap. Cars drive badly, stealth crap, fighting crap, can unload 100 bullets into someone without them dying.
Elder Scrolls online and Fallout 76 were enough for me to never buy a Bethesda game again , utterly awful. If it's on gamepass I'll try it but it will have to be very good to bother with it.
Echoing comments about cyberpunk too. I genuinely don't get it, I bought it at release, almost unplayable, loads of game breaking glitches in the first hour of play how on earth can that get accepted by testers? The whole push it out and patch it needs to be stopped. Glitches aside I think it's crap. Cars drive badly, stealth crap, fighting crap, can unload 100 bullets into someone without them dying.
I'm interested, we've not had a good open world sci-fi RPG for a while. Hopefully it is a return to form for Bethesda, given it is their first new IP in a decade, hopefully they're going to do it right.
anonymous said:
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Reportedly Q1 next year. I expect we will see a proper trailer at E3 and get a release date then. Edited by Mafffew on Tuesday 18th May 08:47
joropug said:
I played Skyrim to death, fallout 3 and every expansion pack, New Vegas, and fallout 4 and every expansion pack.
Elder Scrolls online and Fallout 76 were enough for me to never buy a Bethesda game again , utterly awful. If it's on gamepass I'll try it but it will have to be very good to bother with it.
Echoing comments about cyberpunk too. I genuinely don't get it, I bought it at release, almost unplayable, loads of game breaking glitches in the first hour of play how on earth can that get accepted by testers? The whole push it out and patch it needs to be stopped. Glitches aside I think it's crap. Cars drive badly, stealth crap, fighting crap, can unload 100 bullets into someone without them dying.
Me too, I pre-ordered everything from Oblivion and Fallout 3 onwards. I didn't buy Elder Scrolls online or Fallout 76 and I'm glad I didn't.Elder Scrolls online and Fallout 76 were enough for me to never buy a Bethesda game again , utterly awful. If it's on gamepass I'll try it but it will have to be very good to bother with it.
Echoing comments about cyberpunk too. I genuinely don't get it, I bought it at release, almost unplayable, loads of game breaking glitches in the first hour of play how on earth can that get accepted by testers? The whole push it out and patch it needs to be stopped. Glitches aside I think it's crap. Cars drive badly, stealth crap, fighting crap, can unload 100 bullets into someone without them dying.
When you look back at the Todd chap in front of an audience who were obviously paid to whoop and cheer it annoys me more than it should, needless to say no more pre-orders for me I'll wait and watch with all future games from this lot, regardless of who runs it now.
moustachebandit said:
Lets face it, its going to be complete arse.
Honestly dont think Bethesda has the capability, desire or consumer interest to release a fully fleshed out & functioning product. They are unbelievably complacent and will just assume its going to be a success, so why try harder.
Ultimately it will be a patchwork quilt of half baked ideas and puddle deep grind based gameplay, chopped up a thousand different ways to ensure they can monetise almost every aspect and push the consumer into additional cash purchases from the in game store!
It will launch broken yet the critics will give it top scores and the paying public will be left feeling cheated. It will slowly get patched endlessly over the following years, but for every patch released something else will get broken. Bethesda will move quickly to fix any exploits that might mean players level too quickly, or avoid having to resort to paid extras but will consistently ignore bay 1 bugs that improve the quality of life for the player or enhance the game.
You just need to look at the state of Fallout 76 years after launch to know how this new IP will go. This will basically be Fallout 76 in space.
I will pass thanks!
PS5 Owner ? Honestly dont think Bethesda has the capability, desire or consumer interest to release a fully fleshed out & functioning product. They are unbelievably complacent and will just assume its going to be a success, so why try harder.
Ultimately it will be a patchwork quilt of half baked ideas and puddle deep grind based gameplay, chopped up a thousand different ways to ensure they can monetise almost every aspect and push the consumer into additional cash purchases from the in game store!
It will launch broken yet the critics will give it top scores and the paying public will be left feeling cheated. It will slowly get patched endlessly over the following years, but for every patch released something else will get broken. Bethesda will move quickly to fix any exploits that might mean players level too quickly, or avoid having to resort to paid extras but will consistently ignore bay 1 bugs that improve the quality of life for the player or enhance the game.
You just need to look at the state of Fallout 76 years after launch to know how this new IP will go. This will basically be Fallout 76 in space.
I will pass thanks!
I'll pass on this for now thanks. I may consider it if it gets to the stage of being good. I'm not subscribing to the buy it now regardless of how it is and then hope it will become decent at some point in the future.
Their reputation is in the dumps at the moment. You can only get away with crap for so long.
Their reputation is in the dumps at the moment. You can only get away with crap for so long.
joropug said:
I played Skyrim to death, fallout 3 and every expansion pack, New Vegas, and fallout 4 and every expansion pack.
Elder Scrolls online and Fallout 76 were enough for me to never buy a Bethesda game again , utterly awful. If it's on gamepass I'll try it but it will have to be very good to bother with it.
Echoing comments about cyberpunk too. I genuinely don't get it, I bought it at release, almost unplayable, loads of game breaking glitches in the first hour of play how on earth can that get accepted by testers? The whole push it out and patch it needs to be stopped. Glitches aside I think it's crap. Cars drive badly, stealth crap, fighting crap, can unload 100 bullets into someone without them dying.
I'm clearly a masochist. I've got hundreds of hours of of both 76 and ESO!Elder Scrolls online and Fallout 76 were enough for me to never buy a Bethesda game again , utterly awful. If it's on gamepass I'll try it but it will have to be very good to bother with it.
Echoing comments about cyberpunk too. I genuinely don't get it, I bought it at release, almost unplayable, loads of game breaking glitches in the first hour of play how on earth can that get accepted by testers? The whole push it out and patch it needs to be stopped. Glitches aside I think it's crap. Cars drive badly, stealth crap, fighting crap, can unload 100 bullets into someone without them dying.
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