GTR Drifting?

[Pierscoe1]

It's terribly faux-pas I know, so feel free to burn me at the stake, but.... ;)

hasanyone tried doing a 'drift' setup on any ofthe cars in GTR?

any great success?

obviously the game is biased towards proper racing, and as such the cars towards ultimate grip, but I thought it'd at least make a nice experiment into the physics engine..

much less neg camber, really stiff springs/dampers, really tight LSD, that kind of thing....

just a thought..

think I'll have a go myself later..

post up any settings if you've had good results!! :D

[pvapour]

try the new Ausie V8s, they seem to do it outa the box, did a race at Philip Island with FWD and it was very entertaining once the tyres wore

also try the new oval in terential (sp) rain with no down force and most of the cars drift beautifully

does anyone know when there might be another race?


Nik

[Pierscoe1]

ah... the V8's do look good.. will have to give them a try!!

[FourWheelDrift]

Don't forget to get the latest version of the V8, they now have working lights and Motec. Plus some other tweaks to make them better. Link on Aussie V8 thread, takes you to an Australian forum (need to register) then the download is on the first post in the AusGTR forum.

[docevi1]

drifting in GTR is nigh on impossible I find as the driving setup seems to favour the numpty - what I do to control the slide in the Marlin (steer into slightly, gently light the throttle) simply doesn't work with these things and I just can't catch a slide regardless. IMO thats the only failing of GTR.

[Pierscoe1]

I have been able to catch reasonable slides in both the GT3 and 360.. long in distance, but small in angle, maybe only 1/8th turn of opp-lock.. and it's really tricky with the throttle too.. don't lift and it swaps ends, lift too much or too quickly and it swaps ends...

..but I have caught a few!

I'm sure with a setup that lowers the grip threshold generally, so it all happens at slower speeds, it would be easier... and maybe possible to get larger angles..

[D_Mike]

I find I can catch slides reliably most of the time now. I find that if the slide is major it is easier to catch by cranking on more steering lock in the direction you are already steering very quickly... this makes the front understeer and the whole car just slides nicely across the track, its easier to wind off the lock too and less likely to make you overcorrect. Small slides are easily held by throttle adjustments.

GT3 is the best car for drifting

[FourWheelDrift]

GT cars don't really drift in real life because of the weight of the cars they would use up their tyres far too quickly, so the default setups are based around real life conditions to make it difficult to do so, but any car can be made to slide.

Even so I've had cars sideways and under control on the power out of Copse at Donington and D_Mike might also remember a BMW race we had at Barcelona were I had it under control on more than one occasion, but then I think he was doing the same thing too.

If you want to do it just you can change the diff setting (higher onload - I think, not really played with it too much) or change the front and rear rollbar (more rear rollbar than front for oversteer) and brake bias more to the rear (this will step the back end out under braking when you turn in).

But then again just try one of the arse-engined cars, turn in early to counter the appaling understeer then throttle round balancing the car on the knife edge between slide and sand.

So endeth the lesson.

[Pierscoe1]

D_Mike said:

cranking on more steering lock in the direction you are already steering very quickly...

have heard this technique mentioned a few times now...

is this something that would really work in real life? sounds very unlikely to me.. in which case it's a bit of an exploit of the physics engine...

would have thought that once the back had gone, that initial extra tug would have the car swapping ends much quicker than the onset of understeer... thoughts?

[D_Mike]

I was as doubtful as you, so one time when racing I tried it out and it definately works okay (in a TKM kart at least).

[badders]

Pierscoe1 said:

D_Mike said: cranking on more steering lock in the direction you are already steering very quickly... have heard this technique mentioned a few times now... is this something that would really work in real life? sounds very unlikely to me.. in which case it's a bit of an exploit of the physics engine... would have thought that once the back had gone, that initial extra tug would have the car swapping ends much quicker than the onset of understeer... thoughts?

yeah it is possible, in my simplistic idea of car physics your just asking way to much of the front wheels forcing them into understeer, simular principle to flooring the throttle in a front wheel drive car when it goes sideways i guess. its also very effective in GPL. Doesent really work on GT4 unsuprisingly....they dont seem to trust you in actually having control over the front wheels

[Pierscoe1]

yeah.. don't think I'd ever fancy trying that technique in real life though!

as for GT4.. just gave it another go tonight, as I hadn't played it since about 2 hours after I bought it..

by winding the diff up really hard I did manage to get the RX7 to slide.. although the whole process is pretty notchy.. but better than I had seen before.. then thought "hmm.. maybe it's not so bad" and tried a tuscan round laguna-seca.. and found absolutely no power-oversteer despite major provocation.. I was right the first time!

will stick to GTR until GT legends comes out.. those old porsches in the trailer look