GT4 - Tyre Wear

[miniman]

Couple of questions on tyre wear in GT4:

1. Why do the AI cars not seem to suffer? I'm currently doing the Nurburgring race in the 1000 miles series, in an E-Type. I'm currently 1st with another E-Type in 2nd (about 35 secs behind me so far after 4 laps). I've had to pit twice, he hasn't at all. I'm running hard tyres - there's nothing harder so how come he is still able to run?

2. Does "careful" driving actually affect tyre wear significantly?

3. 2 laps of the 'Ring is, what, 30 miles tops? Why is the tyre wear so unrealistic???

[robbieduncan]

When you say you are on hard tyres do you mean the hard-racing or hard-sports tyres? 30 miles is around 15 laps of many current circuits so not totally outragous for very soft race tyres (although obviously hard ones should last a lot longer). Are you wearing them evenly or is it just the rears?

[miniman]

Hard sports - only sports allowed in the race I'm doing. Wear is a little worse on the rears. The 'Ring is a little different, of course. On any other track, I would do a fair few more laps before pitting (rears are only getting to yellow after 2 laps) but the length of the 'Ring means I fear I would be fully red on the rears by the time I get to the Karussell.

I have tried driving less agressively - no full throttle until 4th gear etc. - but it doesn't seem to make much difference.

[off_again]

Not sure about GT4 since I havent got that far yet. But GT3 definately DID have tyre wear for the AI cars. Simply watching the times for the others drop off is a clear give away.

From what I understand on some GT4 forums though, you need to be really careful to select the right choice of front and back tyres. It has a big impact and some cars eat front or rear tyres.... all to do with balance and the way that you drive - which adds even more depth I suppose.

I am currently on 10 lap races which means I can last a race without pitting on Hard or Super Hard tyres. But the next set of races will mean that I will have to pit. Not quite sure how I will cope with this, since I am completely unsympathetic to my current tyres!!!

[8]

I finding it baffling how my B-spec driver wears out his front tyres faster than his rears, but when I'm driving I wear the rears out first.

[crazydave]

I normally manage to get at least three laps out of my tyres with the E-type.
Try not to floor the throttle out of each corner. Wheel spin destroys the tyres. Slowly apply the throttle until higher in the rev range or a higher gear.

[Munter]

Tyre wear is definately affected by how you drive. Obviously the AI drives have a lot smoother control than a human with a PS2 controller and that appears to be the difference. I did the 1000 mile Nurburg ring race in B-Spec mode and was coming in every 3 laps for tyres and every 6 for fuel I think. Using a Cobra

[pastor brian]

The AI tyres seem to last really long. even when driving very carefully while still maintaining the lead around the ring, the ai cars seem to get 2 more laps than me before pitting. On racing superhards

[jimbro1000]

Ran the Laguna Seca endurance in B-spec last night using a nice Rx-7 LM I picked up as a trophy somewhere

Using hard (race) tyres (considered using superhard but my experience with them is not good) I was seeing the car pit every 23 laps whereas the AI machines could only manage 15 laps. Sticking the B-spec driver in slow pace mode makes a big difference. Moving to average pace knocked my pitting period down to about 15. Using the press hard mode was just plain ridiculous. The difference seems to be how hard it accelerates, brakes and the speed with which it attacks the corners.

[sybaseian]

pastor brian said:

The AI tyres seem to last really long. even when driving very carefully while still maintaining the lead around the ring, the ai cars seem to get 2 more laps than me before pitting. On racing superhards

If you can, use normal tyres or economy as you do get an extra few laps. I did the 24 hour 'Ring' in the CLK GTR Merc and still ended up over 10 laps in front. You have to weigh the additional time taken to do additional laps as the tyres degrade versus improved laptimes but more frequent pit stops.

You need to build a lead and then gradually extend the pit stop interval (using harder tyres) until you have a lap in hand. Once you have this, take it easy and you'll find that you end up lapping faster than the AI and pitting at the same lap intervals. Over a long race, this ensures that you stay on the track