wheel for GT4

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nick francis

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858 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th March 2005
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Im having trouble with my Fanatec Speedster 3 wheel and GT4. Whilst the wheel seemed fine with Need for Speed 2 and GT3 its totally useless with GT4. I tried the suggested sttings for Dead Zone,Sensitivity etc but to no avail. I have tried virtually every combination and still cant keep control. There seems to be a slight delay with every movement which gives the effect of understeer which rapidly changes to huge oversteer and loss of control.

Im trying to find a dealer with the Logitech Driving Force Pro, is it worth dumping the Speedster and getting one of these? I dont really want to part with 100 odd quid if the wheel is no better

rebelstar

1,146 posts

251 months

Sunday 13th March 2005
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I bought the Pro wheel yesterday, but I've not tested it with GT4 yet (GPL, GTR... ). I'm thinking of writing up a review in a couple of days, comparing it against the non-pro wheel.

nick francis

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858 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th March 2005
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Where did you source the Pro wheel? and is it compatible with PC?

>> Edited by nick francis on Sunday 13th March 17:05

rebelstar

1,146 posts

251 months

Sunday 13th March 2005
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I walked into GameStation in Bracknell - they had one left. It's compatible with the PC if you get the Logitech/Wingman utility (for free). I've played GPL and GTR with it and no problems so far.

It won't be recognised as the Pro wheel and will lock itself to 200 and not 900 degrees but this can be overridden using the undocumented select + R3 + right paddle combination

In summary, it's a very nice wheel - much better quality than the regular driving force. It doesn't come with a lap attachment though, so make sure you have a coffee table to hand. Oh, and the 900 degree rotation is overrated!

johnny88

1,097 posts

236 months

Sunday 13th March 2005
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best get the driving force pro - its designed ofr GT4 and compatible with loadsa games. Look at www.ashdesign.com for some frames to mount the wheel on, they start from £300 though.

nick francis

Original Poster:

858 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th March 2005
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I've already got this


and my PS2 plays through my home theatre which projects onto an 8 foot wide screen. The only weakness s the wheel and my lack of ability!

>> Edited by nick francis on Sunday 13th March 20:51

shadytree

8,291 posts

256 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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I couldn't help myself, i was compelled !!
It was sitting there saying "buy me" , so I bought the Driving Force Pro Wheel over the weekend.

WOW! it makes a great game even better. I love the way you get the feedback of understeer/oversteer and road surface through the wheel.
After a few laps of the ring I was breaking into a sweat. Hige fun

Highly recomended !!

>> Edited by shadytree on Monday 14th March 08:56

anniesdad

14,589 posts

245 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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Just bought the Logitech Driving Force Pro and looking forward to my first drive with it when I get home!

I was underwhelmed with my 4gamers wheel and also the sony controller, so I thought I'd do the game justice before I get too far into it and get the wheel designed for it.

I only got the console on Saturday so I'm already looking at remortgages!

Quite fancy one of those seat arrangements though.....

stooz

3,005 posts

291 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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anniesdad said:
Just bought the Logitech Driving Force Pro and looking forward to my first drive with it when I get home!

I was underwhelmed with my 4gamers wheel and also the sony controller, so I thought I'd do the game justice before I get too far into it and get the wheel designed for it.

I only got the console on Saturday so I'm already looking at remortgages!

Quite fancy one of those seat arrangements though.....

where are you buying these from??? I seem to be surrounded with towns that only have a "GAME" shop, that want to sell me the GAME labelled wheel, which ISNT a 900 pro..

luca brazzi

3,978 posts

272 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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Just inthe hope of someone having a solution...

Borrowed a PS2 and bought GT4, and have a Thrustmaster FF Steering Wheel from my PC days. Its a USB jobbie, with pedals, flappy paddle shift as well as sequential shifter to the right...


Will it work on GT4, and what is the procedure for getting it to work, as in when do I plug it in and turn it on? Before power on / after GT4 loads etc. Really confused, and could do with a little hand holding for which I'd be really grateful

Huge thanks for any help.
LB

polarbert

17,928 posts

238 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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just plug it in anytime, but preferably before you power up the ps2


looked at one of these in pc world, not a fan, i almost bought one, until i saw the logitech driving force (the original)

it is absolutely fantastic, does everything the pro does except 900 degrees, and isnt made as well, but then again you do save 50 quid. already bought a pair of trainers and 20 quids worth of petrol with the money i saved!!!

luca brazzi

3,978 posts

272 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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Thanks for that. As there aren't the controller buttons on the steering wheel, I presume I use the joypad controller to make changes, then drive with the wheel.

Trouble is, I don't know how to tell the machine, I want to use the wheel instead of the joypad. The only options of wheel controller are the 2 default wheels. No idea how to select the wheel I have, and enable it.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
LB

anniesdad

14,589 posts

245 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Wow!!

So last night I packed the daughter off to bed and the missus off upstairs to our room to watch Wire in the blood, so I could settle myself down for a GT4/Driving force Pro fest. Got myself a cold one and a bag o'walkers and sat down in my favorite chair.

I get the wheel out of it's box and plug it into the USB port on the front of the PS2, switch the PS2 on and watch as the wheel picks up the signal from the PS2 that GT4 is loaded. The wheel starts to move on it's own from lock to lock whilst it calibrates itself for 900degree steering. A rather neat little party trick. I'm thinking "Ohhh..."

GT4 loads up and I start playing the game. I go straight into Gran Turismo mode and proceed to the races that I was having a little difficulty with at weekend, using the analogue controller. No such problems with the Pro-wheel as it feels much more realistic and you get a muuuuch better feel for the car. Around the straight ahead the wheel feels light upto say 5degree of rotation and then starts to firm up, so the car doesn't stray off line too easily. After say 45degrees of rotation the wheel gets firmer still and needs a little more force to get more lock on. Some of the hairpin bends take a little getting used to as you do have to wind quite a bit of lock on to counteract the cars natural understeer. Mind you I seem to be carrying too much speed into the corners, so this is probably more an operator fault than a programming glitch. Dependent on the obstacle/road surface that you drive upon/contact with, the wheel sends different signals through and you can really feel, what's happening at the "wheels" through the wheel rim. Brilliant.

I completed my first licence, got a few more credits, won the autobianchi and a VW Lupo and then bought myself a standard, used Mazda RX7 (which on initial impressions seems a little slow and will need perking up a bit). Time was ticking on and it feels like I'm driving with one eye open when I think it's time to tackle the 'ring for a couple (it turned out to be about 10) o'blasts before bed time.

Awesome! This is what GT4 and the Pro-wheel is all about. My talent didn't allow me to post any respectable times as I think I must have died about 10 times, per lap! Notwithstanding the fact that you can feel every crest and dip through the wheel, what I can say, when using the wheel in manual transmission mode is that the sense of realism is quite awesome! If you get your engine braking and downchange just right, you get a wonderful blip of the throttle and an overriding sense of achievement. It really is THAT good.

I posted times in the Lister Storm, NSX-R, and BMW M3 Coupe last night, however not respectable ones. What I did run well in interestingly is the '05 BMW 330i, which is a latter day replacement for my own car!! I only died I think twice in this car, but it "felt" very similar to the way that my own car drives and behaves. I'm going to be spending a lot more time with this game over the coming months.....sorry Love!

For all those contemplating buying the Driving Force Pro wheel, but are trying to justify the extra cost, just do it!! I don't believe you can take the best out of GT4 without it, and let's face it, you can't take the money with you when you're gone, can you!!

Stunning!

S

shadytree

8,291 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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anniesdad said:
Wow!!

So last night I packed the daughter off to bed and the missus off upstairs to our room to watch Wire in the blood, so I could settle myself down for a GT4/Driving force Pro fest. Got myself a cold one and a bag o'walkers and sat down in my favorite chair.

I get the wheel out of it's box and plug it into the USB port on the front of the PS2, switch the PS2 on and watch as the wheel picks up the signal from the PS2 that GT4 is loaded. The wheel starts to move on it's own from lock to lock whilst it calibrates itself for 900degree steering. A rather neat little party trick. I'm thinking "Ohhh..."

GT4 loads up and I start playing the game. I go straight into Gran Turismo mode and proceed to the races that I was having a little difficulty with at weekend, using the analogue controller. No such problems with the Pro-wheel as it feels much more realistic and you get a muuuuch better feel for the car. Around the straight ahead the wheel feels light upto say 5degree of rotation and then starts to firm up, so the car doesn't stray off line too easily. After say 45degrees of rotation the wheel gets firmer still and needs a little more force to get more lock on. Some of the hairpin bends take a little getting used to as you do have to wind quite a bit of lock on to counteract the cars natural understeer. Mind you I seem to be carrying too much speed into the corners, so this is probably more an operator fault than a programming glitch. Dependent on the obstacle/road surface that you drive upon/contact with, the wheel sends different signals through and you can really feel, what's happening at the "wheels" through the wheel rim. Brilliant.

I completed my first licence, got a few more credits, won the autobianchi and a VW Lupo and then bought myself a standard, used Mazda RX7 (which on initial impressions seems a little slow and will need perking up a bit). Time was ticking on and it feels like I'm driving with one eye open when I think it's time to tackle the 'ring for a couple (it turned out to be about 10) o'blasts before bed time.

Awesome! This is what GT4 and the Pro-wheel is all about. My talent didn't allow me to post any respectable times as I think I must have died about 10 times, per lap! Notwithstanding the fact that you can feel every crest and dip through the wheel, what I can say, when using the wheel in manual transmission mode is that the sense of realism is quite awesome! If you get your engine braking and downchange just right, you get a wonderful blip of the throttle and an overriding sense of achievement. It really is THAT good.

I posted times in the Lister Storm, NSX-R, and BMW M3 Coupe last night, however not respectable ones. What I did run well in interestingly is the '05 BMW 330i, which is a latter day replacement for my own car!! I only died I think twice in this car, but it "felt" very similar to the way that my own car drives and behaves. I'm going to be spending a lot more time with this game over the coming months.....sorry Love!

For all those contemplating buying the Driving Force Pro wheel, but are trying to justify the extra cost, just do it!! I don't believe you can take the best out of GT4 without it, and let's face it, you can't take the money with you when you're gone, can you!!

Stunning!

S


so you like it then

Just got the last 2 to do , to complete my Intl B license. I've got to do a Clarkeson around The Ring. Under 10mins in a Merc. First effort I was 12 seconds off, then I saw the time :yawn:

anniesdad

14,589 posts

245 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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I like it a lot!!

2 o'clock this morning when I finally shut the thing down.....amazingly didn't get grief off the missus either!

I forgot to mention that the wheel clamps are the best on any wheel I've used before and the carpet grips on the pedals are a major plus!

I just need to be able to adopt a more natural seating position.....I might be investing further in due course.

munter

31,326 posts

248 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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anniesdad said:

I forgot to mention that the wheel clamps are the best on any wheel I've used before and the carpet grips on the pedals are a major plus!


What does it clamp to?... I figure i'd need some way of attaching the thing to my legs...

shadytree

8,291 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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The only downside to the GT4 Wheel is a lack of lap attachment. Might have to build something


anniesdad

14,589 posts

245 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Best bet is to clamp it to a heavy coffee table (ours is about 6-7mm thick glass), or get a throw-away table from Ikea for about a tenner if you haven't got a coffee table. You can get lap attachments for them but personally I wouldn't bother as i'm pretty sure the wheel will still jiggle around too much and it's better to have the wheel a little further away than in your lap anyway. Don't forget it's a 900degree rotation, so sometimes you won't be able to wind enough opposite lock on if the wheel's too close to you. That is unless you've got very short arms.

shadytree

8,291 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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anniesdad said:
Best bet is to clamp it to a heavy coffee table (ours is about 6-7mm thick glass), or get a throw-away table from Ikea for about a tenner if you haven't got a coffee table. You can get lap attachments for them but personally I wouldn't bother as i'm pretty sure the wheel will still jiggle around too much and it's better to have the wheel a little further away than in your lap anyway. Don't forget it's a 900degree rotation, so sometimes you won't be able to wind enough opposite lock on if the wheel's too close to you. That is unless you've got very short arms.


We need one of those hospital tables that comes over the bed

Right... just off to the local old peoples home !

munter

31,326 posts

248 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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shadytree said:

anniesdad said:
Best bet is to clamp it to a heavy coffee table (ours is about 6-7mm thick glass), or get a throw-away table from Ikea for about a tenner if you haven't got a coffee table. You can get lap attachments for them but personally I wouldn't bother as i'm pretty sure the wheel will still jiggle around too much and it's better to have the wheel a little further away than in your lap anyway. Don't forget it's a 900degree rotation, so sometimes you won't be able to wind enough opposite lock on if the wheel's too close to you. That is unless you've got very short arms.



We need one of those hospital tables that comes over the bed

Right... just off to the local old peoples home !


"Quick Morine! Some ruffian is making off with your bed table!"......