Gt4 700 cars! Whats the point?

Gt4 700 cars! Whats the point?

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ocean1

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1,045 posts

266 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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I think all most of us want is 1 rear wheel drive car, that sounds good and has around 1000hp. I think programming in 700 cars of which 99.9% of Im not interested in is a total wast of programming time. Am I alone in this view?

Ocean1

Plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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I reckon so.

Its only the models that need rendering, the frame only needs programming once then its just a subsitution of the car model...

rebelstar

1,146 posts

250 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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The more cars there are, the better the chance of mine being in the game. I'd be pretty disappointed if I only had a heavily modded skyline to play with.

racefan_uk

2,935 posts

262 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Personally its the large range of different vehicles that appeals to me.

Means I can see what times I can do in a smaller, lighter front wheel drive car around different circuit compared to the rear wheel drive cars.

If you want one car with loads of horsepower, just try any of the other driving games out there. Why wait until GT4?

ocean1

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266 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Im waiting for GT4 because I think it is the only game that has realistic physics. I love the GT series. Surely if all the cars are different a lot of research time has been wasted on them. Not much point in pretending that a car in GT4 will be much like the real thing, no matter how good it is.

havoc

30,693 posts

241 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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I'm with the supporters - the ACCURATE rendering of lots of different vehicles means the game appeals more to a wide variety of enthusiasts, not just kiddy game-players.

And on GT3 I really could tell the difference between different vehicles with the same layout, eg. FR Turbo, or FF n/a...

>> Edited by havoc on Monday 31st January 13:44

tim2100

6,285 posts

263 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Its a waste of time after all 695 of the 700 will be different versions of Imprezza's, Evo's, Skylines & micras.

We only need one or two of each car!

Tim

ocean1

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Monday 31st January 2005
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Its true you can tell the difference between different layouts, but who wants to drive a 150hp FF car? Ok say 4 or 5 cars, but 700 is ludicrous.

tim2100

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263 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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ocean1 said:
Its true you can tell the difference between different layouts, but who wants to drive a 150hp FF car? Ok say 4 or 5 cars, but 700 is ludicrous.


Wouldn't be to bad if they limited it to 150 bhp, they had some real crappy cars in previous games like 60 micras at 47.6 bhp

Mr E

22,046 posts

265 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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tim2100 said:

ocean1 said:
Its true you can tell the difference between different layouts, but who wants to drive a 150hp FF car? Ok say 4 or 5 cars, but 700 is ludicrous.



Wouldn't be to bad if they limited it to 150 bhp, they had some real crappy cars in previous games like 60 micras at 47.6 bhp


They were fun though.

2 players racing Fiat 500's was great.

bilko2

1,693 posts

238 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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ocean1 said:
Im waiting for GT4 because I think it is the only game that has realistic physics. I love the GT series. Surely if all the cars are different a lot of research time has been wasted on them. Not much point in pretending that a car in GT4 will be much like the real thing, no matter how good it is.

Blimey, don't let four wheel drift hear you saying that
FWIW i think the physics of 3 and prologue were shyte. Nothing against you mate it's just that bashing into walls and getting 10 second penalties or nothing becomes tiresome.
It's the range of cars that gets me. Being able to pit a standard something against a modded something else. An 80s sports against a 2000 saloon etc etc. I hate the race cars, for me they hold little interest, it's all about making normal stuff better.
GT2 was the best as it allowed you to alter the shape and paintjob of certain cars, I heard somewhere last year i think that there will be something similar in 4?, We'll have to wait and see i spose.
OOH, the drag racing should be good too, and the ring (Nurburrgring*!%$£"..SP?) to see what all the fuss is about and see if i can beat some of your times
I gave up waiting for it a long time ago though; why can't these people just be honest with us?, i would still buy it.
Incidentally out of all the games i have traded at blockbusters, the GT series are the only ones i have kept inc 2.

D_Mike

5,301 posts

246 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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ocean1 said:
Im waiting for GT4 because I think it is the only game that has realistic physics. I love the GT series. Surely if all the cars are different a lot of research time has been wasted on them. Not much point in pretending that a car in GT4 will be much like the real thing, no matter how good it is.


GPL and GTR are far more accurate... as is nascar 2003 probably but that's a bit boring.

FunkynIge

9,057 posts

281 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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tim2100 said:
Its a waste of time after all 695 of the 700 will be different versions of Imprezza's, Evo's, Skylines & micras.

We only need one or two of each car!

Tim


I've read that 130 of the cars are based on 5 models (Skyline, Evo, Impreza and 2 more)

havoc

30,693 posts

241 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Given it's a global game, and there is a huge market for rice-rockets in Japan, and pretty big in the USA, you can understand the large quantity of turbo-rally-nutter-yawn-mobiles.

I'm just hoping they keep the DC2 in there, as that was beautiful to drive in GT3!

forever_driving

1,869 posts

256 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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FunkynIge said:

tim2100 said:
Its a waste of time after all 695 of the 700 will be different versions of Imprezza's, Evo's, Skylines & micras.

We only need one or two of each car!

Tim



I've read that 130 of the cars are based on 5 models (Skyline, Evo, Impreza and 2 more)


Yep, I posted this in another topic...

forever_driving said:


Oh, and of the 700 cars, 125 of them are variations of 5 different vehicles...

22 different Honda NSX's
19 different Mazda RX-7's
23 different Mitsubishi Lancers
51 different Nissan Skylines
20 different Subaru Imprezas

scaff

320 posts

254 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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ocean1 said:
I think all most of us want is 1 rear wheel drive car, that sounds good and has around 1000hp. I think programming in 700 cars of which 99.9% of Im not interested in is a total wast of programming time. Am I alone in this view?

Ocean1


Sorry, can't agree with you at all.

For me part of the major apeal of the GT series is the shear range of cars on offer.

Even is 150 are variants on a few cars, that still over 500 other cars.

ocean1

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266 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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So your seriously going to drive say a Fiat Panda or Citroen C5 when serious metal is provided?

ocean1

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Tuesday 1st February 2005
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D_Mike said:

ocean1 said:
Im waiting for GT4 because I think it is the only game that has realistic physics. I love the GT series. Surely if all the cars are different a lot of research time has been wasted on them. Not much point in pretending that a car in GT4 will be much like the real thing, no matter how good it is.



GPL and GTR are far more accurate... as is nascar 2003 probably but that's a bit boring.


GPL and GTR arnt on PS2 though are they. GT series is the most realistic on PS2

havoc

30,693 posts

241 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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ocean1 said:
So your seriously going to drive say a Fiat Panda or Citroen C5 when serious metal is provided?

Have had some hilarious races against friends while using slow cars on GT3...and while they don't hold the interest as long, having the full gamut of performance cars is good as the uber-machinery tends to have very narrow limits, giving you a digital approach to the track ("on it" or "off it"!)

scaff

320 posts

254 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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havoc said:

ocean1 said:
So your seriously going to drive say a Fiat Panda or Citroen C5 when serious metal is provided?


Have had some hilarious races against friends while using slow cars on GT3...and while they don't hold the interest as long, having the full gamut of performance cars is good as the uber-machinery tends to have very narrow limits, giving you a digital approach to the track ("on it" or "off it"!)


Quite agree, its not like I'm going to drive the slower cars instead of the faster stuff.

An all out Panda race with some mates sounds great. The slower cars require a much more fluid and smooth driving style to ensure fast lap times. You can't just use grunt to make up time on the straights. Thats why so many people had problems with the Yaris races on GT3.