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joropug said:
Played to death since release , but decided to start another play through as a friend is playing for the first time.
I always end up wearing power armour and being OP, decided to try a different approach, sneaky with multipliers. The stealth archer of Skyrim if you will.
Suggested perks for this? I am thinking I want vats accuracy, the blitz one that lets you cover more ground in vats, sneak and ninja.
Is melee worth doing at all? Or are weapons always going to deliver the best damage?
Pistol skills, rifle skills, perception, luck & agility. I always end up wearing power armour and being OP, decided to try a different approach, sneaky with multipliers. The stealth archer of Skyrim if you will.
Suggested perks for this? I am thinking I want vats accuracy, the blitz one that lets you cover more ground in vats, sneak and ninja.
Is melee worth doing at all? Or are weapons always going to deliver the best damage?
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Nice will do - looking forward to trying something different.
Anyone else struggle with not hoarding / producing industrial levels of purified water for profit you don’t need !?
Every settlement I had on my last play through had every inch of water covered by industrial purifiers - I don’t know why I just love making money despite having nothing to spend it on!
Anyone else struggle with not hoarding / producing industrial levels of purified water for profit you don’t need !?
Every settlement I had on my last play through had every inch of water covered by industrial purifiers - I don’t know why I just love making money despite having nothing to spend it on!
joropug said:
Nice will do - looking forward to trying something different.
Anyone else struggle with not hoarding / producing industrial levels of purified water for profit you don’t need !?
Every settlement I had on my last play through had every inch of water covered by industrial purifiers - I don’t know why I just love making money despite having nothing to spend it on!
I can recomend the Deliverer pistol which becomes insane with VATS, you can get 18+ shots in one VAT session, shot through objects with VATS and get massive stacking bonus's for stealth, gun foo etc. You can select the head of a mob behind the wall with 0% hit chance and after the 5th shot will be 100% to hit, probably have crit available and a massive stealth bonus.Anyone else struggle with not hoarding / producing industrial levels of purified water for profit you don’t need !?
Every settlement I had on my last play through had every inch of water covered by industrial purifiers - I don’t know why I just love making money despite having nothing to spend it on!
[i]By far and away the best pistol on offer in Fallout 4, the Deliverer, allows players to deal high damage and do so quietly with no trade-off. It has a very high fire rate with good damage. This damage can be increased by 12 using a powerful receiver with the only downside being a higher weight. Its built-in suppressor will be a major selling point for many players as well.
Furthermore, the V.A.T.S. Enhanced effect gives the weapon better odds when using V.A.T.S. and a 25% reduction in action point cost. Thankfully, it is also easy to acquire. Players can simply complete the main quest, Tradecraft, to get this as a reward. [/i]
Dave Hedgehog said:
I can recomend the Deliverer pistol which becomes insane with VATS, you can get 18+ shots in one VAT session, shot through objects with VATS and get massive stacking bonus's for stealth, gun foo etc. You can select the head of a mob behind the wall with 0% hit chance and after the 5th shot will be 100% to hit, probably have crit available and a massive stealth bonus.
[i]By far and away the best pistol on offer in Fallout 4, the Deliverer, allows players to deal high damage and do so quietly with no trade-off. It has a very high fire rate with good damage. This damage can be increased by 12 using a powerful receiver with the only downside being a higher weight. Its built-in suppressor will be a major selling point for many players as well.
Furthermore, the V.A.T.S. Enhanced effect gives the weapon better odds when using V.A.T.S. and a 25% reduction in action point cost. Thankfully, it is also easy to acquire. Players can simply complete the main quest, Tradecraft, to get this as a reward. [/i]
All over it one of my favourite weapons! [i]By far and away the best pistol on offer in Fallout 4, the Deliverer, allows players to deal high damage and do so quietly with no trade-off. It has a very high fire rate with good damage. This damage can be increased by 12 using a powerful receiver with the only downside being a higher weight. Its built-in suppressor will be a major selling point for many players as well.
Furthermore, the V.A.T.S. Enhanced effect gives the weapon better odds when using V.A.T.S. and a 25% reduction in action point cost. Thankfully, it is also easy to acquire. Players can simply complete the main quest, Tradecraft, to get this as a reward. [/i]
I think I’ve played probably 20+ days since release on and off!
After reading the previous posts about the Deliverer I went and got it (I always have in the past but like so much else it’s for collecting purposes and bunged on display as soon as possible). Looking forward to trying it out.
Interestingly there are bugs and glitches that I never saw on the PS4 version - most specifically the Charlestown Condo CC which simply doesn’t work.
Still it’s a good world to explore.
This game I will be avoiding Power Armour (although I’ve just got a couple of decent sets from the Captain Cosmos quest line) and using the Deliverer.
Interestingly there are bugs and glitches that I never saw on the PS4 version - most specifically the Charlestown Condo CC which simply doesn’t work.
Still it’s a good world to explore.
This game I will be avoiding Power Armour (although I’ve just got a couple of decent sets from the Captain Cosmos quest line) and using the Deliverer.
"Next Gen Update 2" has just dropped.
https://bethesda.net/en/article/0xBHwy048KMmWqzKkr...
edit: Apparently, there are still issues
https://kotaku.com/fallout-4-new-update-next-gen-p...
https://bethesda.net/en/article/0xBHwy048KMmWqzKkr...
edit: Apparently, there are still issues
https://kotaku.com/fallout-4-new-update-next-gen-p...
Well on my replay I think I’ve exhausted all the missions (apart from the BoS line, as they’re dicks). Got to level 75 and maxed out all the perks I’m interested in (I don’t use VATS). I made a couple of saves and tried different paths - on one I just tanked my way through the Institute at the first opportunity, which was quite fun.
Overall enjoyed it second time around but it got a bit samey towards the end. Not bad for a 10 year old game though.
Overall enjoyed it second time around but it got a bit samey towards the end. Not bad for a 10 year old game though.
PhilboSE said:
Well on my replay I think I’ve exhausted all the missions (apart from the BoS line, as they’re dicks). Got to level 75 and maxed out all the perks I’m interested in (I don’t use VATS). I made a couple of saves and tried different paths - on one I just tanked my way through the Institute at the first opportunity, which was quite fun.
Overall enjoyed it second time around but it got a bit samey towards the end. Not bad for a 10 year old game though.
Ad victoriam!Overall enjoyed it second time around but it got a bit samey towards the end. Not bad for a 10 year old game though.
who else could you possibly side with, the world ending terminator building lunatics in the institute? the minute men who are so pathetic they were almost wiped out by raiders? or the hippy "terminator lives matter" railroad. Death to them all... (after you get the railroad gun of course)
I entered the institute last night and wiped everyone out, the 100s of synths in the final passage actually damaged my X-02 MKVI power armour...
I got to see liberty prime in bits for the first time (never completed the game on my last play through)
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 5th June 16:03
Dave Hedgehog said:
I got to see liberty prime in bits for the first time (never completed the game on my last play through)
If you do the BoS questline you actually get to see Liberty Prime repaired and back in action which is quite cool. But even more amusing is the questline where you get to sneak into the BoS camp, reprogram Liberty Prime's IFF so that it considers all BoS as Communists, and then sit back and watch it wipe them out![biggrin](/inc/images/biggrin.gif)
Clockwork Cupcake said:
BrettMRC said:
Was Liberty Prime the big robot from the end of FO3?
YesThe BoS recover it and work on repairing it in Fo4
I've played all the endings of except for the Institute. Father is a weapons grade C U Next Tuesday... There isn't really a lawful good ending as all sides have a drawback but I guess that was intentional. the Brotherhood ending is the most genocidal though, you wipe out all three other factions and even may end up killing paladin Danse because he's a synth. Elder Mason is a bell end too.
captain_cynic said:
Liberty Prime survived the events of the main storyline of FO3, it was destroyed in the DLC Broken Steel.
That's kind of splitting hairs as Broken Steel pretty much should have been in the base game anyway, and I think there are very few people who played Fo3 who didn't purchase Broken Steel, either as a DLC or as part of a GotY edition. Plus I was talking about Fo3 as a whole rather than the base game specifically. Plus, in Fo4, it's canon anyway. captain_cynic said:
I've played all the endings of except for the Institute. Father is a weapons grade C U Next Tuesday... There isn't really a lawful good ending as all sides have a drawback but I guess that was intentional. the Brotherhood ending is the most genocidal though, you wipe out all three other factions and even may end up killing paladin Danse because he's a synth. Elder Mason is a bell end too.
Ain't that the truth. I feel sorry for anyone who got a BoS tattoo because of Fo3 and then several years later found out in Fo4 that they were.. as you say. captain_cynic said:
There was only one ending in FO3 so it all was canon.
Pick your own ending really started with FO:NV.
The worst part was how you died and came back to life in the DLC but meh, there have been worse deus ex machina in game story writing.
I think the biggest suckage of the base Fo3 ending (ie. without Broken Steel installed) is if your companion is Fawkes, the Super-Mutant, who is literally immune to radiation, and he refuses to go into the chamber, even though he did it for you before to get the G.E.C.K., and it is down to either you or Sarah Lyons to sacrifice themself. I always thought that was a dick move. Even more so because, with Broken Steel installed, that is exactly what you can choose. Only Ron Perlman basically calls you a coward for making the logical choice ("failed to follow the example of their father" and the "real hero activated the chamber". The guy who was immune to radiation and for whom it was as much effort or danger as flicking on a light switch. What a hero! Pick your own ending really started with FO:NV.
The worst part was how you died and came back to life in the DLC but meh, there have been worse deus ex machina in game story writing.
Wow. I can't believe this still irks me!
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
captain_cynic said:
There was only one ending in FO3 so it all was canon.
Pick your own ending really started with FO:NV.
The worst part was how you died and came back to life in the DLC but meh, there have been worse deus ex machina in game story writing.
I think the biggest suckage of the base Fo3 ending (ie. without Broken Steel installed) is if your companion is Fawkes, the Super-Mutant, who is literally immune to radiation, and he refuses to go into the chamber, even though he did it for you before to get the G.E.C.K., and it is down to either you or Sarah Lyons to sacrifice themself. I always thought that was a dick move. Even more so because, with Broken Steel installed, that is exactly what you can choose. Only Ron Perlman basically calls you a coward for making the logical choice ("failed to follow the example of their father" and the "real hero activated the chamber". The guy who was immune to radiation and for whom it was as much effort or danger as flicking on a light switch. What a hero! Pick your own ending really started with FO:NV.
The worst part was how you died and came back to life in the DLC but meh, there have been worse deus ex machina in game story writing.
Wow. I can't believe this still irks me!
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TREMAiNE said:
I don't play with companions so never knew that happened - that is unbelievably stupid.
In-game, yes. Apparently the actual reason is that companions were added fairly late in the game and this was all rather a last-minute lash-up.Also, rather than pay Ron Perlman to come back in to record additional narrator content for this, they just re-used the lines that were recorded for Sarah Lyons sacrificing herself, and kind of shoehorned it in with limited success.
I only found all this out after making my post last night.
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Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Thursday 27th June 08:59
Just started replaying this on ps5 and am loving it all over again!
It crashes a hell of a lot though, losing a lot of progress.
I've switched off all of the auto saves and this has helped. But need to remember to save often in case of being killed unexpectedly by a random death claw during my travels!![laugh](/inc/images/laugh.gif)
Got the deliverer pistol but it doesn't seem as powerful as I remember, any tips for making this better guys? Cheers![thumbup](/inc/images/thumbup.gif)
It crashes a hell of a lot though, losing a lot of progress.
I've switched off all of the auto saves and this has helped. But need to remember to save often in case of being killed unexpectedly by a random death claw during my travels!
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Got the deliverer pistol but it doesn't seem as powerful as I remember, any tips for making this better guys? Cheers
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