James Martin - 67' Mustang
Discussion
For 100k Id expect more than a T5 tranny..they probably stiffed him witn an 8" rear too. of course they can both be "built" like a G force trans or Currie rear but 100k come on..Is it a stock block or Ford racing Boss/dart/world products.
Nice car but WAY over budget.
The guy buys a car designed & mass produced (cheaply unless loaded with options) over 40 years ago and expects it to be built and perform like a supercar ! Steering box, live rear end and drum brakes...Hello! We all know pattern parts and their fitting/tooling issues.
Would have been better off buying a Dynacorn bodyshell.
And to show his a proper tool claims "he's finally recreated Steve McQueen's iconic American muscle car" No its a resto mod James.
Deffo an motor enthusiast...with his money not with his heart.
Nice car but WAY over budget.
The guy buys a car designed & mass produced (cheaply unless loaded with options) over 40 years ago and expects it to be built and perform like a supercar ! Steering box, live rear end and drum brakes...Hello! We all know pattern parts and their fitting/tooling issues.
Would have been better off buying a Dynacorn bodyshell.
And to show his a proper tool claims "he's finally recreated Steve McQueen's iconic American muscle car" No its a resto mod James.
Deffo an motor enthusiast...with his money not with his heart.
Mustanglimey said:
For 100k Id expect more than a T5 tranny..they probably stiffed him witn an 8" rear too. of course they can both be "built" like a G force trans or Currie rear but 100k come on..Is it a stock block or Ford racing Boss/dart/world products.
Nice car but WAY over budget.
The guy buys a car designed & mass produced (cheaply unless loaded with options) over 40 years ago and expects it to be built and perform like a supercar ! Steering box, live rear end and drum brakes...Hello! We all know pattern parts and their fitting/tooling issues.
Would have been better off buying a Dynacorn bodyshell.
And to show his a proper tool claims "he's finally recreated Steve McQueen's iconic American muscle car" No its a resto mod James.
Deffo an motor enthusiast...with his money not with his heart.
Well said Shaun....Nice car but WAY over budget.
The guy buys a car designed & mass produced (cheaply unless loaded with options) over 40 years ago and expects it to be built and perform like a supercar ! Steering box, live rear end and drum brakes...Hello! We all know pattern parts and their fitting/tooling issues.
Would have been better off buying a Dynacorn bodyshell.
And to show his a proper tool claims "he's finally recreated Steve McQueen's iconic American muscle car" No its a resto mod James.
Deffo an motor enthusiast...with his money not with his heart.
Should have gone to Classic Restorations:
http://www.themustangnews.com/carnews_09/0809-clas...
Money is probably a secondary issue when you get paid money for old rope. Please cleanse our screens of these cooks and put something decent on.
http://www.themustangnews.com/carnews_09/0809-clas...
Money is probably a secondary issue when you get paid money for old rope. Please cleanse our screens of these cooks and put something decent on.
Very nice, and how nice to have the money to pay for someone else to do it ...
He's in a fortunate position. But the rubbish about the parts not fitting is just that ... SOME parts fit and others don't ... you choose your Mustang supplier. ARP parts comes from the States - he doesn't get them from anywhere else.
2000 parts and two fitted - b
ks. SOME of the repro parts are BETTER than the original and fit - except early rear valances - dreadful - ask me how I know.
He's in a fortunate position. But the rubbish about the parts not fitting is just that ... SOME parts fit and others don't ... you choose your Mustang supplier. ARP parts comes from the States - he doesn't get them from anywhere else.
2000 parts and two fitted - b
ks. SOME of the repro parts are BETTER than the original and fit - except early rear valances - dreadful - ask me how I know.MikeyT said:
Very nice, and how nice to have the money to pay for someone else to do it ...
He's in a fortunate position. But the rubbish about the parts not fitting is just that ... SOME parts fit and others don't ... you choose your Mustang supplier. ARP parts comes from the States - he doesn't get them from anywhere else.
2000 parts and two fitted - bks. SOME of the repro parts are BETTER than the original and fit - except early rear valances - dreadful - ask me how I know.
How do you know, Mike?He's in a fortunate position. But the rubbish about the parts not fitting is just that ... SOME parts fit and others don't ... you choose your Mustang supplier. ARP parts comes from the States - he doesn't get them from anywhere else.
2000 parts and two fitted - b
ks. SOME of the repro parts are BETTER than the original and fit - except early rear valances - dreadful - ask me how I know.Could it be you have restored your own Mustangs using your own fair hands and toiled for hours, days, even years, using blood, sweat and tears rather than having the strain of opening your fat wallet?
I must admit I questioned the "only two parts fitted out of two thousand"? was this to justify the 'price v work' or was it really that bad? who knows. I've had several Mustangs ranging from a 69 Big block to 71 MACH 1's and 71 302 fastback and had an active part in restoring two of them, a 69 and a 71. One was taken to a body shop back in the 80's for an agreed price, where as the 69 was done in my garage by a skilled chap who specialised in body panel work, the rear end literally fell off the car when we started the resto. Unless you're extremely fortunate most panels need a lot of work to fit and align, especially 'after market' brands and having experienced 'doing' and seeing other restorations other problem areas come to light as you progress, so it's easy for prices to rocket as you go on these very time consuming projects
I think I know this guy James Martin used, is he or was he in Romsey? If so he did some work on a couple of 71's I know of and IIRC he doesn't come cheap. One was a Argent 71 Mach 1(another ex car of mine) the owner was pleased with the work but spent a fortune. I won't comment on the other car as the relationship between the owner and person they contracted didn't workout, that's life! One thing is clear to me, these are very very demanding projects and if the owner comes out of it with a car of any decent standard then fair play to them.
I think I know this guy James Martin used, is he or was he in Romsey? If so he did some work on a couple of 71's I know of and IIRC he doesn't come cheap. One was a Argent 71 Mach 1(another ex car of mine) the owner was pleased with the work but spent a fortune. I won't comment on the other car as the relationship between the owner and person they contracted didn't workout, that's life! One thing is clear to me, these are very very demanding projects and if the owner comes out of it with a car of any decent standard then fair play to them.
The Wookie said:
Mustanglimey said:
Would have been better off buying a Dynacorn bodyshell.
Doesn't make life as straight forward as you'd think, believe it or not!Perhaps he has been mis-quoted but its things like;
"If they'd made Mustangs like this in the first place, they would have been the best cars in history."
Its a blue collar car like a cortina..If they had built them like that how many would have been sold, built. Possibly only as a concept car..its a ford not an Aston Martin. The guys not in the real world.
Mustanglimey said:
The Wookie said:
Mustanglimey said:
Would have been better off buying a Dynacorn bodyshell.
Doesn't make life as straight forward as you'd think, believe it or not!Perhaps he has been mis-quoted but its things like;
"If they'd made Mustangs like this in the first place, they would have been the best cars in history."
Its a blue collar car like a cortina..If they had built them like that how many would have been sold, built. Possibly only as a concept car..its a ford not an Aston Martin. The guys not in the real world.
Fairly amusing that you've used Aston Martin as an example, the next car that the chap is doing has a body restored and painted by Aston's classic wing. Where ours has a bodykit, his panels are hand beaten from steel plate and the panel gaps are absolutely perfect. Our man reckons that the owner had to write a cheque out for over 100 grand for it (just the painted shell), before he fell out with them over the spec/bill and handed it over to him
Edited by The Wookie on Monday 14th September 11:35
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