ESSEX AMERICAN IMPORTS
Discussion
I think appologies are in order as it has been brought to my attention that various members on this forum ie. AndyBe, neilsfishing, Viperpaul, RT/10DAVE, V1PER and Viperdave have been posting misleading information regarding the cars that my company sells. All our cars are from main dealers as we say on our website and also the Carfax reports are available for anyone to see. The car in question was offered to us on a sale or return basis, which is why we have identical pictures to the seller. We are currently having a new website built which is why the pictures were still on our old website.
I am amazed that all you Viper followers never had a brain between you to think of picking the phone up and getting your facts straight. I presume after this you will be putting your statements right.
Thanks for the publicity
Paul
Essex American Imports
I am amazed that all you Viper followers never had a brain between you to think of picking the phone up and getting your facts straight. I presume after this you will be putting your statements right.
Thanks for the publicity
Paul
Essex American Imports
If he was using you and your company for selling his cars then i apologize.....
But you must admit it did/does look very strange that he was selling these cars and after parts for these cars Via your company...
In away he has draged you into this as well but i didnt see his name mention above.............
Baz
But you must admit it did/does look very strange that he was selling these cars and after parts for these cars Via your company...
In away he has draged you into this as well but i didnt see his name mention above.............
Baz
Then what about this report?
AndyBe said:
Carfax says otherwise.
A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 8 record(s) for this 1997 DODGE VIPER GTS (1B3ER69E5VV301727).
Purchased: 1997
Type: Personal
Where: Alabama
Est. miles/year: 1,825/yr
Est. length owned: 10/15/97 - 10/20/04
(7 years)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/15/1997 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Montgomery, AL Registered as
personal vehicle
11/26/1997 36 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Montgomery, AL
Title #21918321 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
05/25/1998 Alabama
Police Report
Bay Minette, AL
Case #8050308 Accident reported
Involving a rear impact
with another vehicle
10/12/2004 15,023 Texas
Inspection Station
Plano, TX Passed emissions or safety inspection
Purchased: 2004
Where: Texas
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 10/20/04 - 2/1/07
(2 yrs. 3 mo.)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/20/2004 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Plano, TX
Title #04310238271152902 Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
New owner reported
Passed safety inspection
03/25/2006 18,779 Texas
Inspection Station
Plano, TX Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
02/01/2007 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept. TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE
Title or registration issued
to insurance company
02/01/2007 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Prairie, TX
Title #29727039112135926 JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
Passed safety inspection
A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 8 record(s) for this 1997 DODGE VIPER GTS (1B3ER69E5VV301727).
Purchased: 1997
Type: Personal
Where: Alabama
Est. miles/year: 1,825/yr
Est. length owned: 10/15/97 - 10/20/04
(7 years)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/15/1997 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Montgomery, AL Registered as
personal vehicle
11/26/1997 36 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Montgomery, AL
Title #21918321 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
05/25/1998 Alabama
Police Report
Bay Minette, AL
Case #8050308 Accident reported
Involving a rear impact
with another vehicle
10/12/2004 15,023 Texas
Inspection Station
Plano, TX Passed emissions or safety inspection
Purchased: 2004
Where: Texas
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 10/20/04 - 2/1/07
(2 yrs. 3 mo.)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/20/2004 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Plano, TX
Title #04310238271152902 Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
New owner reported
Passed safety inspection
03/25/2006 18,779 Texas
Inspection Station
Plano, TX Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
02/01/2007 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept. TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE
Title or registration issued
to insurance company
02/01/2007 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Prairie, TX
Title #29727039112135926 JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
Passed safety inspection
JonnyV8 said:
Then what about this report?
Unfortunately for one new Viper owner, he got some bad news after his purchase. Unfortunately for Essex American Imports, they also had the car advertised for sale - on their website. It seems they hadn't bothered to check out the history of the car. They had it on a sale or return basis. Seems it got returned, and the owner sold it on Ebay using the same pics from the website.AndyBe said:
Carfax says otherwise.
A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 8 record(s) for this 1997 DODGE VIPER GTS (1B3ER69E5VV301727).
Purchased: 1997
Type: Personal
Where: Alabama
Est. miles/year: 1,825/yr
Est. length owned: 10/15/97 - 10/20/04
(7 years)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/15/1997 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Montgomery, AL Registered as
personal vehicle
11/26/1997 36 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Montgomery, AL
Title #21918321 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
05/25/1998 Alabama
Police Report
Bay Minette, AL
Case #8050308 Accident reported
Involving a rear impact
with another vehicle
10/12/2004 15,023 Texas
Inspection Station
Plano, TX Passed emissions or safety inspection
Purchased: 2004
Where: Texas
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 10/20/04 - 2/1/07
(2 yrs. 3 mo.)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/20/2004 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Plano, TX
Title #04310238271152902 Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
New owner reported
Passed safety inspection
03/25/2006 18,779 Texas
Inspection Station
Plano, TX Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
02/01/2007 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept. TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE
Title or registration issued
to insurance company
02/01/2007 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Prairie, TX
Title #29727039112135926 JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
Passed safety inspection
A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 8 record(s) for this 1997 DODGE VIPER GTS (1B3ER69E5VV301727).
Purchased: 1997
Type: Personal
Where: Alabama
Est. miles/year: 1,825/yr
Est. length owned: 10/15/97 - 10/20/04
(7 years)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/15/1997 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Montgomery, AL Registered as
personal vehicle
11/26/1997 36 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Montgomery, AL
Title #21918321 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
05/25/1998 Alabama
Police Report
Bay Minette, AL
Case #8050308 Accident reported
Involving a rear impact
with another vehicle
10/12/2004 15,023 Texas
Inspection Station
Plano, TX Passed emissions or safety inspection
Purchased: 2004
Where: Texas
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 10/20/04 - 2/1/07
(2 yrs. 3 mo.)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/20/2004 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Plano, TX
Title #04310238271152902 Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
New owner reported
Passed safety inspection
03/25/2006 18,779 Texas
Inspection Station
Plano, TX Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
02/01/2007 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept. TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE
Title or registration issued
to insurance company
02/01/2007 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Prairie, TX
Title #29727039112135926 JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
Passed safety inspection
Moral of the story remains the same. US imports need a clean carfax, because you can't check out (all) the history on an HPI.
Edited by AndyBe on Thursday 13th December 04:55
HI all- just in case some people do not know how to get a car fax in the UK I thought it was worth putting down some info. The Car fax site does not recognise UK addresses but it will accept a UK credit card using any valid US address. It does not check the credit card against the address. So find any US address and slot in it in the for along with your UK credit card and the transaction will go through.
We (51st State Autos) have been offered about 6 written off cars in the past year- including a Viper, in all cases the owners were blissfully unaware of the car's status, breaking the news is not very nice! Please carry out your own check before buying anything!! The dealers copy is not good enough, as the printout can be doctored very easily and we have seen this as well!
We are in the process of trying to sort out a deal with Car Fax to become their UK agent so the search will be available direct from our website for everyone to use. Obviously this will take some time but hopefully they will go for it.
There are also some dealers bringing write offs in deliberately. At Edmonton SVA test centre a month or so ago we were told of an SRT 10 ram that a dealer presented that had been so badly put back together that they guys testing it wanted to fail it but were not allowed to as it fell out of their remit. As the car was less than three years old, there was no MOT due and so the car would be easily registered and some poor person would end up with a death trap! they didnt tell which dealer but said they were Essex based, so could be a few.
Finally another thing that seems to be going on a lot is advertising cars with the wrong model year on them. The 10th digit of the VIN number always gives the model year. I am so fed up with seeing 05 rams advertised as 06's just because they were first registered in March 06. A guy yesterday told me he had bought an Escalade advertised as a 2005 on an 05 plate- he now wants to part ex it for an 07 escalade that we have and lo and behold it is a 2003 model which means he has now lost £10k in 3 months unless he advertises privately and carries on the deception. Its a never ending cycle sadly!
If anyone needs any help getting a Car Fax let me know at sales@51stateautos.com , even if you are buying elsewhere we are happy to get the report for you!!!
Thanks
Charles
51st State Autos
We (51st State Autos) have been offered about 6 written off cars in the past year- including a Viper, in all cases the owners were blissfully unaware of the car's status, breaking the news is not very nice! Please carry out your own check before buying anything!! The dealers copy is not good enough, as the printout can be doctored very easily and we have seen this as well!
We are in the process of trying to sort out a deal with Car Fax to become their UK agent so the search will be available direct from our website for everyone to use. Obviously this will take some time but hopefully they will go for it.
There are also some dealers bringing write offs in deliberately. At Edmonton SVA test centre a month or so ago we were told of an SRT 10 ram that a dealer presented that had been so badly put back together that they guys testing it wanted to fail it but were not allowed to as it fell out of their remit. As the car was less than three years old, there was no MOT due and so the car would be easily registered and some poor person would end up with a death trap! they didnt tell which dealer but said they were Essex based, so could be a few.
Finally another thing that seems to be going on a lot is advertising cars with the wrong model year on them. The 10th digit of the VIN number always gives the model year. I am so fed up with seeing 05 rams advertised as 06's just because they were first registered in March 06. A guy yesterday told me he had bought an Escalade advertised as a 2005 on an 05 plate- he now wants to part ex it for an 07 escalade that we have and lo and behold it is a 2003 model which means he has now lost £10k in 3 months unless he advertises privately and carries on the deception. Its a never ending cycle sadly!
If anyone needs any help getting a Car Fax let me know at sales@51stateautos.com , even if you are buying elsewhere we are happy to get the report for you!!!
Thanks
Charles
51st State Autos
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