RE: Shelby Mustang is available in UK

RE: Shelby Mustang is available in UK

Friday 10th June 2005

Shelby Mustang is available in UK

But you must hurry if you want one...


Ford Shelby Cobra Mustang 500
Ford Shelby Cobra Mustang 500
5.4-litre supercharged V8 with 450bhp
5.4-litre supercharged V8 with 450bhp

One US dealer is prepared to sell Ford's Shelby Cobra GT500 Mustang in the UK. According to Autocar, Kent Car Imports (link below) will source, import and prep the 5.4-litre, 450bhp supercharged car for you, for just £37,060. And the motor is still 18 months away from launch.

KCI boss Tristan Walker has warned that you need to act fast if you plan to buy as cars are scarce and over half the quota has already been sold.

So if you think you might want one of the most powerful factory-built Ford Mustangs in history, act now.

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Kneedowndeano

Original Poster:

7,408 posts

260 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Is this a newer version of Shelby500 (Elenor)?

gofasterrosssco

1,244 posts

243 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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"A bloody would a tell ya"

Will this one still have the rear live axle??

dinkel

27,176 posts

265 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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About 100 horses less bit still a stunning piece of kit:
www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/1118180416565208807/

Where are my stickers . . .

www.edmunds.com/news/regularnews/articles/105225/article.html
Oei, that's coming close . . .

>> Edited by dinkel on Friday 10th June 12:45

timwatsham

231 posts

257 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Think I followed one of these into work this morning - silver with black strips. Amazing noise, and had a supercharged badge on the back...

Worth buying for aural treats alone!

T5-R

434 posts

233 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Kneedowndeano said:
Is this a newer version of Shelby500 (Elenor)?


Looks like it to me

800

1,971 posts

243 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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yum

Shame about the shite interior

chrisx666

808 posts

268 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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gofasterrosssco said:
"A bloody would a tell ya"

Will this one still have the rear live axle??



From related story:

The GT500 features a MacPherson strut independent front suspension with "Reverse L" lower control arms, and a solid-axle, three-link rear suspension with coil springs and a Panhard rod for precise control of the rear axle.

Ford said that this rear suspension design has been validated on the track by Ford Racing. The race-prepared Ford Racing Mustang FR500C was purpose-built from the base 2005 Mustang body structure and suspension geometry to run in the Grand-Am Cup series, a class of road racing for production-based cars. Competing against cars from Germany and Japan, a Mustang FR500C competed in and won its first ever race in the season-opener at Daytona International Speedway in February 2005.

In other words, yes..

driller

8,310 posts

285 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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If TVR can make a 4.0 L normally aspirated engine which produces 400BHP, how come a supercharged 5.4L "only" makes 450BHP?

dinkel

27,176 posts

265 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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All current TVR lumps are pretty racy. This new Stang's V8 has a totally different character. Drive any Musclecar and you'll tell the difference.

Those pre '73 big ±7 litre 427/440 ohv V8s pumped out a healthy 400 horsies revving max 5.5-6k. That's without turbo / supercharging. Just a big Sixpack / Holley / Edelbrock or whatever. The dohc Speed6 goes all the way up to 8k and has 4 valves per head too. Which helps. TVR is more about top-end power while the big 8s - such as this one - is more about torque.

Not all engines are stressed to the max. And that's a good thing.

mrkipling

508 posts

263 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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driller said:
If TVR can make a 4.0 L normally aspirated engine which produces 400BHP, how come a supercharged 5.4L "only" makes 450BHP?



That car is but a supercharger pulley change & flash tune away from 550 bhp, word is it was detuned to distance it from the Ford GT.........

driller

8,310 posts

285 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Yeah I see what you mean about the torque thing and not stressing the engine but in that case the addition of the potentially weak link of a supercharger seems illogical. Anyway any V8 engine over 5 litres is OK by me

JoeKing

33 posts

235 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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As an owner of this cars predecessor (03 Cobra w/IRS)....I can tell you these cars are the business.

With just pulley, chip, catback, & air intake you have 475rwhp... & with a screw-blower & fuel sytem upgrade..600rwhp.

The sounds emitted are symphonic & the car never fails to induce euphoria. I'm 17 everytime I drive it...glorious.

At $35,000..its better than a lifetime pass at your favorite brothel...(well, at least a year)

37K ouch...sorry about...VAT (hehe)..$40k in US

BUY ONE!

>> Edited by JoeKing on Friday 10th June 23:03

>> Edited by JoeKing on Friday 10th June 23:05

lap_time

339 posts

234 months

Sunday 12th June 2005
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Supremely droolworthy. Finally, a US car that actually handles (not including the GT40 and 2005 GT).

thirsty

726 posts

271 months

Sunday 12th June 2005
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driller said:
If TVR can make a 4.0 L normally aspirated engine which produces 400BHP, how come a supercharged 5.4L "only" makes 450BHP?


Like a couple of threads indicated above, the Cobra engine is a low reving, high torque engine. The reliability should be better than that of the TVR.

As for TVR, I think it's well known that they fudge their HP numbers. My 285 HP Chim 450 only put out 200 HP at the wheels. (and I have the data sheets to prove it !) That is a 30% discrepancy !!

If a major car maker like Ford was found cheating their numbers to that degree, it would not look very good in all the car magazine reviews, hence they would take a beating on the forecourt.

runt

314 posts

234 months

Sunday 12th June 2005
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my old '70 Mustang '302ci' was rated by FoMoCo as 195 bhp - my 450 Chimaera engine feels like 100 horses more - must say this new Muzzie is a step in the right direction

speedy_thrills

7,775 posts

250 months

Monday 13th June 2005
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I have to say 450hp sounds like some one may have cocked up the cog sizing on the supercharger to me. It’s only 150hp more powerful than the ordinary V8 engine, I’m not sure the price is justified. You can purchase reliable engines with in excess of 600hp from suppliers in the U.S.

To be honest however looking at the engine power alone would be somewhat pointless and I do not yet believe Ford have done their best in terms of the cars handling. It still weights over 1.5 metric tones and uses an SOHC V8, 0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.

An expensive ploy to sell cars to yuppies and raise some much needed cash at Ford.

It seems most people have realised this however, approx. 75% of the Mustangs purchased are V6’s.

lap_time

339 posts

234 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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speedy_thrills said:
I have to say 450hp sounds like some one may have cocked up the cog sizing on the supercharger to me. It’s only 150hp more powerful than the ordinary V8 engine, I’m not sure the price is justified. You can purchase reliable engines with in excess of 600hp from suppliers in the U.S.

To be honest however looking at the engine power alone would be somewhat pointless and I do not yet believe Ford have done their best in terms of the cars handling. It still weights over 1.5 metric tones and uses an SOHC V8, 0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.

An expensive ploy to sell cars to yuppies and raise some much needed cash at Ford.

It seems most people have realised this however, approx. 75% of the Mustangs purchased are V6’s.


Somehow I doubt this. Remember 1964? No? Well neither do I, but thats not the point. Well, in '64, demand for the Muzzie was so high, that Ford had upped production to a rate where they needed three assembly lines! Well, it looks like its 1964 all over again, because Ford are upping Muzzie production to 192,000, up over 80,000 from last years. And, the high end V8 GT models are in particularly short supply. So I don't know where you heard that 75% stuff from, but I doubt its true. And anyway, you know how Americans are with anything with less than eight cylinders and four litres...

mrkipling

508 posts

263 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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[quote=speedy_thrills]
To be honest however looking at the engine power alone would be somewhat pointless and I do not yet believe Ford have done their best in terms of the cars handling. It still weights over 1.5 metric tones and uses an SOHC V8, 0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.

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Actually the Cobra has a 32v DOHC motor, the standard GT has an SOHC alloy engine with 3 valves per cylinder. The GT runs 5.2 seconds to sixty (verified fact) this Cobra will hit 4.5 at least & will probably be a few tenths quicker.

saleen05

123 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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nice one mr kipling...bit of knowledgeable sanity in a thread that was getting on my t!ts

Guibo

274 posts

272 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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speedy_thrills said:
0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.

It's the magazines that are claiming sub-5 second 0-60. Can't be false until proven to be false.

speedy_thrills said:
An expensive ploy to sell cars to yuppies and raise some much needed cash at Ford.

Yuppies wouldn't be caught dead in a Mustang.

speedy_thrills said:
It seems most people have realised this however, approx. 75% of the Mustangs purchased are V6’s.

Not quite. If you're talking about total sales (including fleet sales to rental agencies which by and large do not buy V8 GT's), that figure might be close.
"The sales mix is already 38 percent GT, compared with around 33 percent GT in past years. But the unscheduled order bank contains almost 61 percent GTs, Ford says."
--autoweek, Apr '05