RE: Shelby Mustang is available in UK
Friday 10th June 2005
Shelby Mustang is available in UK
But you must hurry if you want one...
One US dealer is prepared to sell Ford's Shelby Cobra GT500 Mustang in the UK. According to Autocar, Kent Car Imports (link below) will source, import and prep the 5.4-litre, 450bhp supercharged car for you, for just £37,060. And the motor is still 18 months away from launch.
KCI boss Tristan Walker has warned that you need to act fast if you plan to buy as cars are scarce and over half the quota has already been sold.
So if you think you might want one of the most powerful factory-built Ford Mustangs in history, act now.
Discussion
About 100 horses less bit still a stunning piece of kit:
www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/1118180416565208807/
Where are my stickers . . .
www.edmunds.com/news/regularnews/articles/105225/article.html
Oei, that's coming close . . .
>> Edited by dinkel on Friday 10th June 12:45
www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/1118180416565208807/
Where are my stickers . . .
www.edmunds.com/news/regularnews/articles/105225/article.html
Oei, that's coming close . . .
>> Edited by dinkel on Friday 10th June 12:45
gofasterrosssco said:
"A bloody would a tell ya"
Will this one still have the rear live axle??
From related story:
The GT500 features a MacPherson strut independent front suspension with "Reverse L" lower control arms, and a solid-axle, three-link rear suspension with coil springs and a Panhard rod for precise control of the rear axle.
Ford said that this rear suspension design has been validated on the track by Ford Racing. The race-prepared Ford Racing Mustang FR500C was purpose-built from the base 2005 Mustang body structure and suspension geometry to run in the Grand-Am Cup series, a class of road racing for production-based cars. Competing against cars from Germany and Japan, a Mustang FR500C competed in and won its first ever race in the season-opener at Daytona International Speedway in February 2005.
In other words, yes..
All current TVR lumps are pretty racy. This new Stang's V8 has a totally different character. Drive any Musclecar and you'll tell the difference.
Those pre '73 big ±7 litre 427/440 ohv V8s pumped out a healthy 400 horsies revving max 5.5-6k. That's without turbo / supercharging. Just a big Sixpack / Holley / Edelbrock or whatever. The dohc Speed6 goes all the way up to 8k and has 4 valves per head too. Which helps. TVR is more about top-end power while the big 8s - such as this one - is more about torque.
Not all engines are stressed to the max. And that's a good thing.
Those pre '73 big ±7 litre 427/440 ohv V8s pumped out a healthy 400 horsies revving max 5.5-6k. That's without turbo / supercharging. Just a big Sixpack / Holley / Edelbrock or whatever. The dohc Speed6 goes all the way up to 8k and has 4 valves per head too. Which helps. TVR is more about top-end power while the big 8s - such as this one - is more about torque.
Not all engines are stressed to the max. And that's a good thing.
As an owner of this cars predecessor (03 Cobra w/IRS)....I can tell you these cars are the business.
With just pulley, chip, catback, & air intake you have 475rwhp... & with a screw-blower & fuel sytem upgrade..600rwhp.
The sounds emitted are symphonic & the car never fails to induce euphoria. I'm 17 everytime I drive it...glorious.
At $35,000..its better than a lifetime pass at your favorite brothel...(well, at least a year)
37K ouch...sorry about...VAT (hehe)..$40k in US
BUY ONE!
>> Edited by JoeKing on Friday 10th June 23:03
>> Edited by JoeKing on Friday 10th June 23:05
With just pulley, chip, catback, & air intake you have 475rwhp... & with a screw-blower & fuel sytem upgrade..600rwhp.
The sounds emitted are symphonic & the car never fails to induce euphoria. I'm 17 everytime I drive it...glorious.
At $35,000..its better than a lifetime pass at your favorite brothel...(well, at least a year)
37K ouch...sorry about...VAT (hehe)..$40k in US
BUY ONE!
>> Edited by JoeKing on Friday 10th June 23:03
>> Edited by JoeKing on Friday 10th June 23:05
driller said:
If TVR can make a 4.0 L normally aspirated engine which produces 400BHP, how come a supercharged 5.4L "only" makes 450BHP?
Like a couple of threads indicated above, the Cobra engine is a low reving, high torque engine. The reliability should be better than that of the TVR.
As for TVR, I think it's well known that they fudge their HP numbers. My 285 HP Chim 450 only put out 200 HP at the wheels. (and I have the data sheets to prove it !) That is a 30% discrepancy !!
If a major car maker like Ford was found cheating their numbers to that degree, it would not look very good in all the car magazine reviews, hence they would take a beating on the forecourt.
I have to say 450hp sounds like some one may have cocked up the cog sizing on the supercharger to me. It’s only 150hp more powerful than the ordinary V8 engine, I’m not sure the price is justified. You can purchase reliable engines with in excess of 600hp from suppliers in the U.S.
To be honest however looking at the engine power alone would be somewhat pointless and I do not yet believe Ford have done their best in terms of the cars handling. It still weights over 1.5 metric tones and uses an SOHC V8, 0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.
An expensive ploy to sell cars to yuppies and raise some much needed cash at Ford.
It seems most people have realised this however, approx. 75% of the Mustangs purchased are V6’s.
To be honest however looking at the engine power alone would be somewhat pointless and I do not yet believe Ford have done their best in terms of the cars handling. It still weights over 1.5 metric tones and uses an SOHC V8, 0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.
An expensive ploy to sell cars to yuppies and raise some much needed cash at Ford.
It seems most people have realised this however, approx. 75% of the Mustangs purchased are V6’s.
speedy_thrills said:
I have to say 450hp sounds like some one may have cocked up the cog sizing on the supercharger to me. It’s only 150hp more powerful than the ordinary V8 engine, I’m not sure the price is justified. You can purchase reliable engines with in excess of 600hp from suppliers in the U.S.
To be honest however looking at the engine power alone would be somewhat pointless and I do not yet believe Ford have done their best in terms of the cars handling. It still weights over 1.5 metric tones and uses an SOHC V8, 0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.
An expensive ploy to sell cars to yuppies and raise some much needed cash at Ford.
It seems most people have realised this however, approx. 75% of the Mustangs purchased are V6’s.
Somehow I doubt this. Remember 1964? No? Well neither do I, but thats not the point. Well, in '64, demand for the Muzzie was so high, that Ford had upped production to a rate where they needed three assembly lines! Well, it looks like its 1964 all over again, because Ford are upping Muzzie production to 192,000, up over 80,000 from last years. And, the high end V8 GT models are in particularly short supply. So I don't know where you heard that 75% stuff from, but I doubt its true. And anyway, you know how Americans are with anything with less than eight cylinders and four litres...
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To be honest however looking at the engine power alone would be somewhat pointless and I do not yet believe Ford have done their best in terms of the cars handling. It still weights over 1.5 metric tones and uses an SOHC V8, 0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.
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Actually the Cobra has a 32v DOHC motor, the standard GT has an SOHC alloy engine with 3 valves per cylinder. The GT runs 5.2 seconds to sixty (verified fact) this Cobra will hit 4.5 at least & will probably be a few tenths quicker.
To be honest however looking at the engine power alone would be somewhat pointless and I do not yet believe Ford have done their best in terms of the cars handling. It still weights over 1.5 metric tones and uses an SOHC V8, 0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.
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Actually the Cobra has a 32v DOHC motor, the standard GT has an SOHC alloy engine with 3 valves per cylinder. The GT runs 5.2 seconds to sixty (verified fact) this Cobra will hit 4.5 at least & will probably be a few tenths quicker.
speedy_thrills said:
0 to 60 seems to have been quoted around 5-6 (Initial hyper claims of sub-5 seconds seem to be false marketing) seconds by most sources with a top speed about 160mph.
It's the magazines that are claiming sub-5 second 0-60. Can't be false until proven to be false.
speedy_thrills said:
An expensive ploy to sell cars to yuppies and raise some much needed cash at Ford.
Yuppies wouldn't be caught dead in a Mustang.
speedy_thrills said:
It seems most people have realised this however, approx. 75% of the Mustangs purchased are V6’s.
Not quite. If you're talking about total sales (including fleet sales to rental agencies which by and large do not buy V8 GT's), that figure might be close.
"The sales mix is already 38 percent GT, compared with around 33 percent GT in past years. But the unscheduled order bank contains almost 61 percent GTs, Ford says."
--autoweek, Apr '05
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