anyone seen this yet

anyone seen this yet

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bigblockmark

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242 posts

252 months

ad13

28 posts

94 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I went in with an open mind, because if they'd said "has a tendency to go sideways across three lanes in the wet", I'd have been like "yep done that", but 2 stars because of "Autonomous Emergency Braking" and "rear passenger protection is poor", that's hardly going to make me regret having one. Active safety is a relatively new toy, and if the way the auto-brake in a friend's A5 is anything to go by, it's pretty jarring (either that or he drives too close in slow traffic; also probable). And rear passengers... well, any rear passengers probably don't have legs to begin with.

The Daily Mail comments at least give a good laugh as usual

bigblockmark

Original Poster:

242 posts

252 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Totally agree. Anyway, I've had 4 TVRs, anything feels safe after those.

mac96

4,393 posts

150 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Headline looks like an Alternative Fact to me; appears that the 2 star rating was for features, not the results of the actual crash tests, and a system which converts this into an overall rating seems daft.

I don't know what the US spec auto braking does, but a lot of these systems only operate at low speeds and are not 'life saving' at all. They are 'damage reducing'. Mrs Mac's Mazda CX5 gets 5 stars, and only has a low speed autobrake.

And are they any better than a driver who is paying attention to the job in hand rather than to the kids in the back(none allowed in my Mustang!) or the phone?

Anyway, I am not going to lose sleep worrying about this.

Melchett

810 posts

193 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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This bit of the report would seem to suggest the problems go further than standard equipment and auto braking:

Analysis of the dummy data showed that the driver's head had 'bottomed out' the airbag i.e. there was insufficient pressure in the airbag to prevent the head from contacting the steering wheel through the deflated airbag material. The head of the passenger dummy also bottomed out the airbag against the dashboard, owing to insufficient inflation of the airbag and inadequate restraint for larger statures by the front passenger seatbelt load-limiter....
the rear seat passenger slipped under the lap portion of the seatbelt (a phenomenon known as 'submarining') and the score for the knee, femur and pelvis body region was penalised and protection was rated as poor. Protection of the chest was also rated as poor as the rear seatbelt (which has neither pre-tensioners nor load-limiters) showed an excessively high tensile force in the test. Dummy readings of head deceleration indicated weak protection of the head for the rear passenger.

http://euroncap.blob.core.windows.net/media/26350/...

mac96

4,393 posts

150 months

djc206

12,733 posts

132 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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My RS4 has autobraked twice. I switched it off after that. First time moving left at a set of lights it picked up the stationary queue going right and the guy behind me mercifully was switched on and hit his brakes. I got out explained and apologised. Second time a car was turning into a drive on the left, the opposite carriageway was clear if they took their time and i needed to move round, emergency brakes again. I've switched it off, it's utter st, a technology introduced long before it had been developed to a suitable level. The absence of it saves me a "bong" every time I drive off.

croyde

23,878 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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mac96 said:
hehe

On the US part of the Mustang6g site there are sections on where is the best place to put your weapon in the car.