S550 Mustang ordered, couple questions

S550 Mustang ordered, couple questions

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Heartworm

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1,932 posts

168 months

Sunday 24th April 2016
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Car is ordered, triple yellow, black stripes, V8 no custom pack but Shaker Audio/Nav, Reverse sensors and the climate seats.


Ordered based on the condition of a test drive not in rush hour Edinburgh traffic. As soon as the order was created was handed the keys and told to enjoy - went out for 45 minutes with SWMBO.



Reminded me of my old Supra, gave superb confidence down the back roads, was then pleasant when pottering back through the town. Initial thoughts were the V8 was rather quiet, after a little time though the benefit that its unobtrusive in traffic but produces a good burble when pushing on became apparent. The roads were pretty terrible but the suspension coped well, it didn't feel like being rattled to death over every pothole.



With 9-10 months delivery time being quoted it's agreed that my car will be registered in April 2017, for the £140 tax band, but also on the paperwork that the car will come with Fords new Sync 3 infortainment system - When is this being added to the Mustang in Europe/UK as was told they might night to place a 2nd order with Ford if my build is before this date and use this order for stock.



goldengooner

135 posts

134 months

Sunday 24th April 2016
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Heartworm said:
With 9-10 months delivery time being quoted it's agreed that my car will be registered in April 2017, for the £140 tax band, but also on the paperwork that the car will come with Fords new Sync 3 infortainment system - When is this being added to the Mustang in Europe/UK as was told they might night to place a 2nd order with Ford if my build is before this date and use this order for stock.
Its being added for the 2016 cars, which the build starts in June, I know this as I have the Nav on my California Special, and my dealer will not be getting the software upgrade till June. Unlike the My Ford2 which the maps are on an SD card, with the sync 3 its all on the h/d on the actual unit.
you should find this interesting
its a very cool bit of kit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlMCt-Ge14

VUB

69 posts

169 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Mine arrives in 2 weeks, so not Sync 3. Is it upgradeable?

goldengooner

135 posts

134 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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VUB said:
Mine arrives in 2 weeks, so not Sync 3. Is it upgradeable?
has been asked on other Mustang sites, answer was no

VUB

69 posts

169 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Oh well, never mind. I'll just have to try and live without it.

Pommygranite

14,326 posts

223 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
goldengooner said:
VUB said:
Mine arrives in 2 weeks, so not Sync 3. Is it upgradeable?
has been asked on other Mustang sites, answer was no
US vendors will sell you a SYNC 3 upgrade, but its huge money (several thousand $$$) - searching the 6G forums should bring up links.

SYNC 3 apparently has its own foibles, so definitely not worth it (unless you have got money to burn!)
Would love to hear more about the Sync 3 bit you mention above.

My test was with a Sync 2 and it was frankly crap. The salesman was a bit embarrassed when demo'ing the sat Nav and it just took forever too load and the touch wasn't great. Mines coming with 3 and I'm very relieved.


croyde

23,878 posts

237 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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My own 2p.

I wish I had not bothered with the £795 upgrade to Sat Nav and extra speakers.

The sound is not a patch on my 17 year old e36 with it's bog standard stereo and I hardly use the Sat Nav as it's so inferior to Google on my phone.

The money would have been better spent on a new exhaust with an H-pipe biggrin

Like all toys I played with the system at first but now I just drive the car, for really that is what the Mustang is about.

KevinCamaroSS

12,253 posts

287 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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Heartworm said:
With 9-10 months delivery time being quoted it's agreed that my car will be registered in April 2017, for the £140 tax band, but also on the paperwork that the car will come with Fords new Sync 3 infortainment system - When is this being added to the Mustang in Europe/UK as was told they might night to place a 2nd order with Ford if my build is before this date and use this order for stock.
What is this new £140 tax band please?

goldengooner

135 posts

134 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Heartworm said:
With 9-10 months delivery time being quoted it's agreed that my car will be registered in April 2017, for the £140 tax band, but also on the paperwork that the car will come with Fords new Sync 3 infortainment system - When is this being added to the Mustang in Europe/UK as was told they might night to place a 2nd order with Ford if my build is before this date and use this order for stock.
What is this new £140 tax band please?
Sync 3 is being added to all the European 2017 builds, which starts around June, I know this as my Sync 3 in my LHD can be updated with UK maps in June / July. If you see my post above in this thread, you can watch an hour video all about it
The Tax Band
I understand that from April 2017 the tax drops to £140 per year, BUT there is a 2k price you have to pay upfront, which I suppose if you keep the car 8 years plus works out an advantage
if this is wrong, please put me right

Heartworm

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1,932 posts

168 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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goldengooner said:
The Tax Band
I understand that from April 2017 the tax drops to £140 per year, BUT there is a 2k price you have to pay upfront, which I suppose if you keep the car 8 years plus works out an advantage
if this is wrong, please put me right
This is correct, although you push the £2k tax on the new car this is an increase as it's currently around £1k on the car so omg takes 3/4 years to be an advantage, that and when trying to sell a car from March with tax of £505 a year is going to be much more difficult to sell than a car from April at £140 tax A year.

croyde

23,878 posts

237 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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People keep saying it will be harder to sell 2015 and 2016 cars because of their higher VED but you have to take into account that they will be older thus cheaper.

KevinCamaroSS

12,253 posts

287 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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So, to summarise, you pay extra RFL up front (an extra £1K) so that the annual rate is reduced from £505 to £140. Sounds interesting.

Centurion07

10,395 posts

254 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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croyde said:
People keep saying it will be harder to sell 2015 and 2016 cars because of their higher VED but you have to take into account that they will be older thus cheaper.
For you and me with our old! cars that will be true, but if you pick yours up only a month or two before the switch then I think it WILL cost come resale time.

andyman_2006

732 posts

197 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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KevinCamaroSS said:
So, to summarise, you pay extra RFL up front (an extra £1K) so that the annual rate is reduced from £505 to £140. Sounds interesting.


so if you pay £2000 tax year one when new, and £140 p/year in years 2-5, this means a total of £2560 (in 5 years) divide by 5 years ownership and that means £512 a year avg road tax? so the older cars are still £505 so cheaper road tax over 5 years ownership?

Also if you only own the car 4 years it works out at avg £605 a year...

Or have i missed something?

Andy

goldengooner

135 posts

134 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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andyman_2006 said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
So, to summarise, you pay extra RFL up front (an extra £1K) so that the annual rate is reduced from £505 to £140. Sounds interesting.


so if you pay £2000 tax year one when new, and £140 p/year in years 2-5, this means a total of £2560 (in 5 years) divide by 5 years ownership and that means £512 a year avg road tax? so the older cars are still £505 so cheaper road tax over 5 years ownership?

Also if you only own the car 4 years it works out at avg £605 a year...

Or have i missed something?

Andy
All depends how long you keep the car for, if you keep it for 6 years plus, then its worth doing. its a big outlay 1st of all but then the £140 sounds very good per year


KevinCamaroSS

12,253 posts

287 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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andyman_2006 said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
So, to summarise, you pay extra RFL up front (an extra £1K) so that the annual rate is reduced from £505 to £140. Sounds interesting.


so if you pay £2000 tax year one when new, and £140 p/year in years 2-5, this means a total of £2560 (in 5 years) divide by 5 years ownership and that means £512 a year avg road tax? so the older cars are still £505 so cheaper road tax over 5 years ownership?

Also if you only own the car 4 years it works out at avg £605 a year...

Or have i missed something?

Andy
On your figures you missed something, the first year is not £505 but £1120.

Centurion07

10,395 posts

254 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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Whatever you work the figures out to be, currently Ford pays the first year's tax in it's entirety. I don't see Ford swallowing the extra £1K out of the goodness of their heart, so expect the OTR price that the customer pays to go up when this change takes effect.