Anyone thinking of changing their order to a 2017 model?

Anyone thinking of changing their order to a 2017 model?

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crostonian

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2,427 posts

179 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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I only ordered my 5.0 GT Coupe in mid August so will be looking at late Q2, early Q3 2016 delivery at the earliest. It has got me thinking whether I would be better waiting for one of the 2017 MY 500 bhp upgrade models.

Another consideration, although minor is the VED rates. In 2017, assuming the list price stays below £40k first year VED will be £2000 with each year thereafter £140 whereas a 2016 car will be £1100 first year with an annual rate of £505 for each following year. If you are planning to keep the car a long time then is it better to wait? This will also affect resale values in a few years time, notwithstanding the power difference the VED rate for used buyers will be a huge difference between a late 2016 and an early 2017 car.

As the annual increases in VED occur the differences will no doubt get larger. I realise this is a boring topic but it is a valid consideration, especially as the cars get older.

sumpoil

431 posts

171 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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crostonian said:
...... It has got me thinking whether I would be better waiting for one of the 2017 MY 500 bhp upgrade models.
The 'upgrade to 500bhp' has been reported by 'Autocar' since Jan, and to be honest I think it's complete bcensoredks. I'm pretty sure the only way we'll get a 500bhp Mustang is if Ford decide to bring the GT350 to the UK ..... or maybe the not-yet-official GT500, which rumour has it will be a V6 twin turbo.

gt500nick

960 posts

145 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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If I were in this position I would wait a little longer for the updated model, more power is always appreciated and as you say it will be better at resale time assuming you want to sell on after a 12-24 months ownership. I doubt it will happen but if they start making the 350 in rhd i'll be tempted back.

Stig

11,822 posts

291 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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2 things (IMHO).

1. 500hp from the Coyote will only come if you slap a supercharger on - and you can do that now with FRPP kit if you so wish.

2. 'If' and that's a big 'if' the GT350 were to come here you'd be looking at £50k - not £34k

As for the VED - the lump you'll pay on the '17 a not to mention the inevitable retail price increase (already up £1k and I fully expect more to come), will mean you could run a '16 car for about 6 years and be no worse off - by which time there will be a further generation out in all likelihood.

Besides, they'll be a common sight by 2017 wink

foliedouce

3,088 posts

238 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Definitely wouldn't swap it, but would get a 2017 model as well!

I have a rag top on order and depending on what we do car wise over the next few years and how the Mustang spec changes, I fancy a Fastback as well, especially if they brought the GT350 / 500 over to the UK in RHD form.

Matt Harper

6,769 posts

208 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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I have now read in several, ostensibly reliable US automotive media sources that 2018 Mustang GT will be V6 Ecoboost, as will F-150.

gt500nick

960 posts

145 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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I hope they keep a v8 but it's clear from the new ford gt that ford are moving to turbos and smaller engines. New regulations on emissions probably a key factor, or I could be completely wrong

rusgb

206 posts

174 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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gt500nick said:
I hope they keep a v8 but it's clear from the new ford gt that ford are moving to turbos and smaller engines. New regulations on emissions probably a key factor, or I could be completely wrong
Which then means a RHD GT V8 could be a very rare thing indeed, probably worth the £500 per year...

Matt Harper

6,769 posts

208 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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gt500nick said:
I hope they keep a v8 but it's clear from the new ford gt that ford are moving to turbos and smaller engines. New regulations on emissions probably a key factor, or I could be completely wrong
I think that CAFE mandate is hard to achieve with Coyote, which is developed now pretty much to its maximums. To achieve fuel economy improvement would require some form of cylinder deactivation tech - not worth re-engineering for (particularly with a vary-cam DOHC set up). This is how Dodge achieved compliance with the 6.4 Apache engine delivering better fuel figures than the 6.1.
The logical - and longer term strategic solution is to utilize the 6 cyl ecoboost - it exists now, works well and is less thirsty (so CAFE compliant) than the 8 cyl Coyote. A shame - but the way of things at FoMoCo if US industry intelligence is to be believed.