How Do You Torque This?

How Do You Torque This?

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mr-lovebucket

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33 posts

221 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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I'm in the middle of building my first Caterham. The assembly guide says to torque the gearbox/bell-housing bolts to 47Nm. I've got a pretty standard socket set, but there's no way I can fit the socket in (see photo), and therefore can't use my torque wrench. I can tighten it up with a standard allen key, but obviously not to a specific torque. I've had a quick search for smaller sockets or specialist tools but can't find anything. I'm assuming there's a very simple answer to this!

I have a similar issue with the flexible brake hoses that go to the front callipers. The securing nut is on the end of the hose, so only an open-ended spanner can be used - yet the assembly guide says to torque it to 10Nm. Again, there must be a simple answer! I am somewhat of a novice at this...

Help would be gratefully received.

Many thanks

nigelpugh7

6,136 posts

195 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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I would not worry about the specific torque that much, however you can get a gimbal and wobbly extension in there and then use your torque wrench, I have done so on my previous R400 and my current R500 too.

Much the same on the brake lines, as you say it needs two spanners, so do it tight but not too tight using the two spanners, and it will be fine.

nigelpugh7

6,136 posts

195 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Also if you do want to torque up the bell housing bolts use one of these:-



This is a Snap On make, but you can get other makes at more reasonable prices!!

David Long

1,224 posts

184 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Use the standard allen key and then use a short extension with a hole in it to drive the allen key. If the torque wrench is at right angles to the allen key then it will be near enough the correct torque.

If you don't have an extension with an hole in it, then drill, or file a u section in an old socket.

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Re the brake pipe - just practice what 10 Nm feels like with wrench and that will be near enough. Overtightening is easy, so to go easy. They'll check them for you at the post build check so under doing it should be picked up.

Edited by David Long on Thursday 30th December 18:27

Dave J

891 posts

271 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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halfords 10" socket extensionsmile

in fact get the 150 piece set thats on offer for £99

mr-lovebucket

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33 posts

221 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Thanks guys :-). Dave J - the socket extension doesn't work as the socket itself doesn't fit. Funnily enough I do have that exact socket set. I don't have anything suitable with a hole in though and don't fancy drilling/cutting up a socket, so I think I'm just going to settle for "very tight" with the allen key!

Steve-B

737 posts

287 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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This is where Mr Dremel Tool is such good fun smilesmile

Take a set of allen keys, a set of cutter discs, some protective glasses and make your own keys. Worst comes worst, you use an adjustable spanner on the resulting smaller key and you can still lock em down.

And spend the £99 on more important stuff

GarryA

4,700 posts

169 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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Nicodema

259 posts

223 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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Try this:

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That middle section is a tommy bar adapter from my Irimo socket set, which has a 3/8" female hole on the top, and a 1/2" drive on the bottom. The space where the tommy bar would go through allows me to drive the 'L' foot of the allen key.

For torqueing open ended spanner-able items, you need a set of crows foot spanners. I got a set each of metric and imperial. They come in very handy for all sorts of stuff on the car, often in conjunction with a 1/4" drive extension. Brake unions are a speciality.

Edited by Nicodema on Friday 31st December 14:46