RE: Caterham R600

RE: Caterham R600

Monday 1st March 2004

Caterham R600

Caterham continue their quest for yet more power from K Series


Autocar readers may have noticed that they ran a piece on the so called Caterham R600 last week.

Well here’s the Caterham line... There does exist a prototype evolution of the R500 running a 2 Litre version of the K series engine. Power, although not finalised, is expected to be in the region of 250 bhp, with a torque figure of around 190 lbft.  

Jez Coates, Caterham’s Technical Director commented, “We have been working on a development of the R500 engine for over 18 months now, and we are very happy with its progress. It’s important that not only do we focus on power, torque and drivability, but we ensure that its all produced from a reliable power unit .”

The next generation R500, whatever it is to be called, is likely to be available from late summer this year.

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MikeE

Original Poster:

1,850 posts

291 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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This is excellent news, I've always thought the R500 could do with a bit more power

dougie_wh

53 posts

248 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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I went round Bedford Autodrome on Saturday with a chap called Peter Unwin, very kindly showed me what his crazily fast R500 can do, nothing was a match for it. 100k 360 Ferrari, GT3 911's, you name it and i'll beat it! It also has attached a huge rear wing which Pete has said has made a huge differance. Anyone seen the car? He's been to quite a few track days. I'd say from experience the R500 is plenty quick enough as it is!!

MikeE

Original Poster:

1,850 posts

291 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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yeah well the R500 might be quick, but I have plans for something faster

dougie_wh

53 posts

248 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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ummmm, such as what?!

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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Hmm will Mike's Duratec Engined 7 be quicker than an R500? You were looking for 220 bhp Mike so an R500 might shade you!

MikeE

Original Poster:

1,850 posts

291 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Dino, I thought I was one of only a few who frequented Blatchat and PH

Yeah you could be right but I think the Duratech R's flatter power curve and low down torque might be an advantage?

Anyway at the end of the day an R500 or Duratech R's capabilities will be way beyond mine so it's probably a bit academic

cheers,
Mike

Bananaman

201 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th March 2004
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How many mm between rebuilds on a 250bhp Metro ???

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Wednesday 17th March 2004
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Judd (who build the 2 litre) will warranty it for 3000 race miles. If you have it rebuilt with it after that they will warranty it again.

MikeE

Original Poster:

1,850 posts

291 months

Wednesday 17th March 2004
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...and I spoke to the factory yesterday* and they confirmed they are building the so called 'R600' (Autocars name not Caterhams) and that they have some firm orders in their build schedule for mid-summer delivery....



*just spoken to them today as well as I just paid my first deposit - no going back now

bertie

8,566 posts

291 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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MikeE said:
Dino, I thought I was one of only a few who frequented Blatchat and PH



cheers,
Mike


Oh no, there's a few of us!!

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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MikeE said:
yeah well the R500 might be quick, but I have plans for something faster
A Radical?

MikeE

Original Poster:

1,850 posts

291 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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Hi Danny,

Must admit, given the rave reviews from the motoring press recently, I did briefly consider an SR4 as an alternative but four things put me off:

1. I suspect the used market for SR3/SR4s is pretty small so it could be difficult to sell on when the time comes,

2. Now don't flame me for this 'cos it's just my impression, but I think I'd miss the hoonability of a 7 type chassis even though the SR3/SR4 is significantly faster,

3. I don't know how you go about being taken seriously enough by Radical to secure a test drive, and as I'm a lazy b@stard I couldn't be bothered to find out

4. I fancied a project/challenge so I'm building an R400 minus engine/clutch/gearbox etc and am then going to build and install a Duratech (I've ordered the R400 and am just deciding which Duratech spec. to go for but I suspect it'll be the 2.3litre 250bhp version)

Having said that if money were no object (and I didn't have to consider such things as education cost for my twin daughters) I'd have an SR4 as well (naturally it'd have to be the Supercharged version to be faster than you and Andrew)

Once I've got the Duratech up and running I'll see you on track (probably 2005)

cheers,
Mike

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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1. I'm not sure resale is too much of an issue, when I was first looking for the SR3, 2nd ones seemed to go very quickly. We'll see!

2. Can definitely see where you're coming from here. Have just got a set of crap gooning Yoko's to see what it's like to hold in slides!

3. Just call - can't remember there being an issue at all! Another interested punter on the test day managed to put the test SR3 backwards through some bales - of course he was the "race" driver ha!

4. Sounds awesome! Can't wait till I have the time to do a project.

Not at TVRCC Snett day in April?

sook

77 posts

247 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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After reading the comments abot fitting a Duratec, I thought that this might be of interest.
£5300 (plus original engine) for a 270BHP 2l duratec.

www.totalkitcar.com/tested.shtml

If they can do it for a 2l, I'm sure they could do it for a 2.3l for roughly the same price.

Steve-B

751 posts

289 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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now that's an interesting engine!!!

would fit in my SV with no trouble....