k-series misfire?

k-series misfire?

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allen l

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443 posts

183 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Maybe anyone has an idea of the following problem. It seems my Caterham is constantly misfiring if it's over 4100 rpm. I tried new spark plugs and replaced the two coils for new ones.
As the car still stutters I absolutely have no idea where to look for.

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edit: it's a k-series vvc / 160 bhp.

Edited by allen l on Friday 29th January 22:09

jeremyc

24,293 posts

289 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Crank position sensor?

Also check all your earth and power connections: took me ages to find an intermittent misfire caused by a poor power connection in the main feed from the battery.

SLR400

215 posts

177 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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I had the same problem and it turned out to be the TPS throttle pot sensor? I think

James.S

585 posts

217 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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Had something similar on a 400, misfire and no power under load after 4k rpm, turned out to be the throttle potentiometer.

allen l

Original Poster:

443 posts

183 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Thanks, I'm going to see if I can find the fault now. smile

POORCARDEALER

8,540 posts

246 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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A misfire can be start of head gasket problem.........

allen l

Original Poster:

443 posts

183 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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I do hope you realize you're spoiling my mood a bit... biggrin

Let's hope that's not the problem. wink

Yellow 7

177 posts

177 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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I got a nasty misfire above 4000 rpm at circuit after a fuel fill up - Turned out to be duff petrol!
Boy was I happy when I filled up with fresh juice and it was gone... Hope you are as lucky.

allen l

Original Poster:

443 posts

183 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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I'm afraid that's not the problem as I fill up the car almost every week with ron98. smile

Tango7

688 posts

231 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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Lots of reasons for a misfire but I'd try checking inside the distributor cap and see what conditions the electrodes are like and also the rotor arm.

The other one to check quickly is as mentioned previously with the earth leads. Mine was being checked on Track n Road's rolling road for a misfire at 5-5.5k and it turned out that the earth lead on the engine mount from chassis to engine was loose. According to Caterham, this is the main engine earth point and even if the one from the battery to gearbox housing is tight, the engine mount one is more critical.

Good luck tracing it.

T

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

266 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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SLR400 said:
I had the same problem and it turned out to be the TPS throttle pot sensor? I think
I would guess this too yes

allen l

Original Poster:

443 posts

183 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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Tango, forgive me if I say something stupid as I'm a technical noob. Get's even harder for me if I have to translate to English. biggrin
I've got the k-series with 2 ignition coils on the spark plugs, so I don't think I have a distributor cap?

I'll see when I get the throttle position sensor and hopefully I can get rid of the problem with it. Checked the earth lead of the engine. Didn't know I had another one, but I'll have a look at it when the weather gets a bit better. smile

The Wookie

14,031 posts

233 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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I would tend to agree with crank sensor or manifold air pressure sensor, which has given exactly the same fault as that before. From my experience TPS failing tends to give more subtle symptoms unless it's completely died.

Easiest thing to do is start unplugging things and seeing if they make things worse or better

allen l

Original Poster:

443 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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I'm receiving the tps today, so if it wouldn't solve the problem, I was thinking about taking the car to a rolling road, and see if they could find the fault. I'll see if I can check those sensors, you mentioned.

allen l

Original Poster:

443 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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After a ten minute job and a thorough test drive I can say this problem has been fixed. Thanks everyone for the help! beer



BertBert

19,495 posts

216 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Not yer HG after all then! Phew.

Bert

POORCARDEALER

8,540 posts

246 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Great news!!

allen l

Original Poster:

443 posts

183 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Or stil some problems? idea

Now I'm having a problem with the idling again. After installing, I had reset the tps by turning the ignition on, pressing the gaspedal for 5 times and turning the ignition off for at least 10 seconds.
When stationairy, the car occasionally even stalls completely, unless I keep the revs up a bit. On the move I have no problems whatsoever. Still getting bloody annoying, my Caterham ownership. Got to keep smiling. Got to keep smiling, no stress... banghead

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

266 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Sounds like the IACV yes

allen l

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443 posts

183 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Thanks, but I had that one replaced already. smile


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Got so irritated that I went outside and disconnected the battery for 20 minutes. Same problem after 10 minutes of idling so I played a bit with the gaspedal in the car. Suddenly the car revved at 3k rpm and stayed there. Removed the bonnet, and pulled the gas cable. Immediately a perfect idling. nuts

Ah well, I have a spare cable. Going to change it coming Friday and hopefully I can finally enjoy the real Caterham experience after 7 months of fiddling. biggrin

Edited by allen l on Monday 8th February 12:28