Superlight R 500

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Badapple

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2,265 posts

261 months

Wednesday 8th October 2003
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What sort of price do these range from?
From brand new to used.

Are they extremely sought after?

j05ha

17 posts

254 months

Wednesday 8th October 2003
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Hi

Second hand they're usually around 30K (see www.caterham.co.uk) depending on age/spec. The new prices vary according to spec as well, you can have Windscreens/weather equipment/paint - etc etc.

Pretty sort after but a Caterham being a fairly 'personal' car may lead people to buy new so they can get exactly the spec they want.

It's based around a fairly highly strung K series 'Minister' engine, so reliability can be an issue (it's worth the worry!). But if out and out acceleration is your thing then a bike engined car can thrill.

Watch out for a few 'Duratec' engined cars (Ford engine, similar power, arguably better reliability and drivability) it may become the engine of choice, undervaluing the R500 and causing prices to fall.

The joys of alternative motoring!

j.

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th October 2003
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Duratec is not a current official Caterham engine so this will have an effect on values. All R500 reliability issues seem to be sorted now after early issues (all sorted by Caterham with a recall).

R500's are incredibly fast bonkers cars. Don't let anyone tell you that they are totally inflexible as it is possible to put it in 6th at 30/35mph and it will pull from there right to the redline.

Awesome car go for it!

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th October 2003
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The R500 is an incredible car. You have to go in one to realise just how fast it is (genuinely shocking).

Reliability is no longer a big issue. Early cars had problems but these were all sorted by Caterham with a recall. Make sure the car has had the uprated big end bearings done (should be done at the recall).

Don't let anyone tell you it isn't a flexible engine. You can stick it in sixth at 35 mph and it will pull all the way through to max from there!

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th October 2003
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My first post didn't appear when I looked back so I have kind of repeated myself. Sorry.

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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I can sell you a very nice one for £28k low mileage...never been tracked...

bongomania

105 posts

256 months

Monday 13th October 2003
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The R500 holds the current production car record for 0 to 100 to 0. (and has done for some time.)

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

263 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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Really? I thought the Tiger twin-engined machine held that record now. But I might be wrong. i remember watching the episode of Fifth Gear when Needell broke the record. But maybe Caterham have retaliated since?

hughesie2

12,592 posts

289 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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Racefan_uk said:
Really? I thought the Tiger twin-engined machine held that record now. But I might be wrong. i remember watching the episode of Fifth Gear when Needell broke the record. But maybe Caterham have retaliated since?


That was for the outright 0-60 record...

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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0-100-0 record is Caterhams standing at 11.25 seconds. They took it from the McLaren F1 LM.

It is also fast round circuit which that Tiger thing would not be!

bertie

8,566 posts

291 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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Getting back to the original question, they are not particularly more sought after than any other Superlight, and beware the £££££ engine refresh every 5000 miles. Allegedly £2k ish

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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Can go further than that without a refresh with less track miles. Keith Jex refreshed his himself for circa £1000.

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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Dino, I'm not sure whether Keith did the work himself - I was at Minister with my SLR last year when his was in there. Graham Fuller told me Keith's was in for the bearing upgrade, so we may be talking about 2 different events.

As for the desirability of an R500, what is interesting is that they are coming down in price secondhand. With dry sump as standard and higher quality components in the engine I'd buy one over an SLR, execially since the price diferential between an SLR & R500 is a couple of grand

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Thursday 16th October 2003
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He wrote and article about it in Low Flying!

fat arnie

1,656 posts

270 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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He did himself after a training course with Peter Carmichael where they stripped one of Richard Ince's engiens which had decided to part company with some of its internals.

The K is not as reliable as other engine options for a Seven at this level of tune.



>> Edited by fat arnie on Saturday 25th October 15:57

JenkinsComp

918 posts

254 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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Racefan_uk said:
Really? I thought the Tiger twin-engined machine held that record now.


The Tiger isn't a production car, R500 is.

John Websters road legal Shoebox Chevy drag car beat the 0-100-0 record but used a parachute to slow down so I'm not sure if that counts!

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

263 months

Wednesday 26th November 2003
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The Stealth B6 also beat the McLaren, I know because I wrote about it, but I'd forgotton before, and I also don't really classs that as a production car either! Bt can't remember whether it was timed properly and was registered.

But it was basically a scaled down Toyota GT1 race car rather than a road car.

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th November 2003
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I know that the Stealth won the Autocar shootout one year but it didn't take the record from McLaren.

The Tiger hasn't gone quicker and isn't a production car anyway. The drag car can't really count as it is modified.