limited slip diff

limited slip diff

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trotsky

Original Poster:

58 posts

207 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Hi folks, the caterham i'm looking to buy has a lsd ,can anyone tell me the benefits of this? it has 190bhp vauxhall power.also what tyres to go for,regular fast use intended on track but mostly road.driving Ta

sjmmarsh

551 posts

225 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Have a read of this recent thread on blatchat: http://www.blatchat.com/t.asp?Id=144735 as it will answer this nicely.

The summary is:

1) You can get more traction on the road as the unloaded wheel doesn't spin all the power away
2) You can break traction more controllably - i.e. Donuts!

Steve

Finchy172

389 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Just check the oil level in the diff and possibly change if it hasnt been done for some time.

Tyre choices you have many but most opt for Yokohama A048 or the Avon CR500.


Shaun_E

748 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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LSD is most helpful in slow/tight corners as it stops you spinning away all the power on the inside wheel. The converse of that is that in the hands of the inexperienced or unwary it can give you unexpected power oversteer (especially in the wet).
Another tyre option is the Toyo R888 which is very similar to the Yokohama A048R but has softer sidewalls giving a better ride.

Fat Arnie

1,656 posts

268 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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LSD is actually most unhelpful in slow/tight corners as unless correctly set up (cross loading and ramp angles) it will only make the inherent understeer in a VX much worse.

Bobo W

770 posts

257 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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In terms of Yokohama tyres, if you're thinking majority road with some track I would suggest AO21's, as in my opinion they are a better all round tyre and also reasonably priced. If the balance is more towards track then opt for the AO48's.


Shaun_E

748 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Arnie - fair point - LSD can increase understeer.
On the tyre front you will get as many opinions as there are tyres.
I have tried many of the track biased tyres on a Caterham (on road and track).
Yoko A021Rs are a good allrounder but, IMHO, they don't offer anywhere near the benefits in the wet that many people state. When cold they are as cr*p as any other track biased tyre. A Caterham is so light that you will aquaplane in standing water whatever tyre you have - just take it easy in bad conditions. On a dry track they will rapidly overheat.
Yoko A048R has more dry grip and no real penalty in the wet. Still needs heat to be most effective. Has very stiff sidewalls and tramlines badly on poor road surfaces. Much better on track than the A021R
Toyo R888 similar to A048R but with softer sidewalls leading to better ride and less tendency to tramline. I have these in soft compound for sprinting but if price were an issue I would use these in medium compound on the road and track.
Avon CR500 - IMHO the best road tyre for a Caterham. They are much lighter than any of the others (giving a better ride and reducing unsprung weight) and are good in wet or dry - also last longer than some others. Not the ultimate on track but they work pretty well. Downside is they are more expensive than all the others mentioned above.
Unless you are doing stellar mileages I can't see the point in putting a normal car tyre on a Caterham.

James.S

585 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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CR500's are way, way better thatn the Yoko 48's in the wet, although they do not last as long.

Tango7

688 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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James.S said:
CR500's are way, way better thatn the Yoko 48's in the wet, although they do not last as long.
James, are you saying that the CR500's or the 48's don't last as long? My experience with 48's are that after only a thousand miles, they were noticeably worn whereas CR500's are expected to last 10k or more... (so long as you aren't doing donuts everywhere biggrin) In fact, a set that had very little tread on them still managed a trip to the Stelvio and Nurburgring last June with a run to the 50th in Norfolk before finally giving up the ghost on a trackday in November!

casbar

1,112 posts

220 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Having tried all tyres over the years, I only used to get about 3k out of 32's and 48's, but my CR500's have lasted a lot longer.

Hence when you actually work out price against wear, there isn't a lot in it, and I think CR500's are a superior tyre.

sfaulds

653 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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James does more mileage than he realises - I agree the CR500's should last longer than the 48s.

James.S

585 posts

217 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Dont really know how long Yoko's last or CR500's for that matter just that in the wet the yoko's are inferior to the cr500's.