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Hello!
Just noticed that my 7 (2001 X-Flow 1700) doesn't have a Catalytic Converter.
Asked a spanner-handy pal his thoughts and he is of the opinion that it will not pass an MOT.
It's been MOT'd in the past, so I'm guesing that there's some kind of loophole (or 'friendly' MOT merchants) thing going on.
Anyone have any knowledge?
Just noticed that my 7 (2001 X-Flow 1700) doesn't have a Catalytic Converter.
Asked a spanner-handy pal his thoughts and he is of the opinion that it will not pass an MOT.
It's been MOT'd in the past, so I'm guesing that there's some kind of loophole (or 'friendly' MOT merchants) thing going on.
Anyone have any knowledge?
Hi Munkee,
Had my Xflow, no catalist Seven MOTd earlier this year, no mention of a catalitic (SPIT OUT) converter. It is a 1990 model. I cant quote on the legal aspect but, I do seam to remember reading that cars produced before the date that manufacturers had to fit them by law were exempt from MOT requirments. but I cant be sure.
Ring up an MOT station and ask.
John.
Had my Xflow, no catalist Seven MOTd earlier this year, no mention of a catalitic (SPIT OUT) converter. It is a 1990 model. I cant quote on the legal aspect but, I do seam to remember reading that cars produced before the date that manufacturers had to fit them by law were exempt from MOT requirments. but I cant be sure.
Ring up an MOT station and ask.
John.
Hi again,
Got me wondering so I have just found this on line....
On 1 January 1996 petrol engine vehicles equipped with catalytic converters and
registered after 1 August 1992 became subject to the new CAT emissions test as part of the MoT. Only Green MoT stations may carry out these tests. Those vehicles registered prior to 1 August 1992 fitted with CATs are not subject to the MoT CAT emissions test. There are some vehicles registered during 1993 and 1994 which may not be catalyst equipped.
And........
The MOT regulations say nothing about a vehicle having a catalytic converter. They merely set emission levels which have to be achieved if the vehicle is first used after a specific year.
I think you will be fine.
John.
Got me wondering so I have just found this on line....
On 1 January 1996 petrol engine vehicles equipped with catalytic converters and
registered after 1 August 1992 became subject to the new CAT emissions test as part of the MoT. Only Green MoT stations may carry out these tests. Those vehicles registered prior to 1 August 1992 fitted with CATs are not subject to the MoT CAT emissions test. There are some vehicles registered during 1993 and 1994 which may not be catalyst equipped.
And........
The MOT regulations say nothing about a vehicle having a catalytic converter. They merely set emission levels which have to be achieved if the vehicle is first used after a specific year.
I think you will be fine.
John.
What does it say on your v5? Is it down as a Caterham, or a kit car(can't remember the exact wording). If it is down as a kit car, then it only needs a visual emissions test. You should be okay at a 7 friendly garage though, my Westie is a 1998 factory built car, so should have a cat but doesn't, and I haven't had any problems yet!
Munkeeman,
Suggest you search the archives on www.blatchat.com; you don't have to be a member to view. You'll also find questions relating to "Seven-friendly" MOT stations in various areas. If there's one in your area you'll be OK.
Alan
Suggest you search the archives on www.blatchat.com; you don't have to be a member to view. You'll also find questions relating to "Seven-friendly" MOT stations in various areas. If there's one in your area you'll be OK.
Alan
Recently had my 1997 kit built Seven MOT'd which it duly failed on the emissions test.
The car has always been catless but first go on the new computer mot system it told the tester to emission test it.
Luckily he was a friendly guy and a quick call to Simon Lambert at Caterham and another go on the computer and it came up as visual smoke test only
If it's any help it's to do with one of the letters in you're vin number.
Cheers Mark
The car has always been catless but first go on the new computer mot system it told the tester to emission test it.
Luckily he was a friendly guy and a quick call to Simon Lambert at Caterham and another go on the computer and it came up as visual smoke test only
If it's any help it's to do with one of the letters in you're vin number.
Cheers Mark
Hi
this is the answer from VOSA regarding MOT and visual smoke test:
The In Service Exhaust Emission Standards For Road Vehicles Eleventh Edition states for Caterham cars "Where the 10th digit of the VIN is equal to or less than'V' and the 6th digit is 'C' or 'K' the vehicle concerned should be considered as 'amateur build' and as such should receive a visual smoke test only
For emissions purposes only, kit cars and amateur built vehicles first used before 1 August 1998 and Wankel rotary-engined vehicles first used before 1 August 1987 are to be considered first used before 1 August 1975.
Kit cars and amateur built vehicles first used on or after 1 August 1998 ("S" reg) are required to obtain Single Vehicle Approval and should be tested to the limits stated on the registration document.
Jack
this is the answer from VOSA regarding MOT and visual smoke test:
The In Service Exhaust Emission Standards For Road Vehicles Eleventh Edition states for Caterham cars "Where the 10th digit of the VIN is equal to or less than'V' and the 6th digit is 'C' or 'K' the vehicle concerned should be considered as 'amateur build' and as such should receive a visual smoke test only
For emissions purposes only, kit cars and amateur built vehicles first used before 1 August 1998 and Wankel rotary-engined vehicles first used before 1 August 1987 are to be considered first used before 1 August 1975.
Kit cars and amateur built vehicles first used on or after 1 August 1998 ("S" reg) are required to obtain Single Vehicle Approval and should be tested to the limits stated on the registration document.
Jack
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