1700 Ford Cross-Flow

1700 Ford Cross-Flow

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MunkeeMan

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157 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th August 2006
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Howdy Y'all.

In a moment of boredom I just thought I'd cheer myself up and enter the world of Caterham for a while.

Bought a Super 7 Super Sprint. Now, I have to admit that I know very little about the 7 as it's been (modern) Lotus and Porsche over the last few years. This car, as I understand, has the 1700 Ford Crossflow Engine with a Kent Stage 2 cam, 45 Webers, and aluminium sump. The engine has been blueprinted and balanced.

I don't pick up till later in the week, so in the meantime can anyone who's ever owned one of these little beasties tell me what to expect? Also, is there much scope for increasng the power on this (dinosaur) engine without breaking the bank (or the engine)?

Chuffed to bits as it's in great shape and low miles - a toy that I just might keep.

Cheers

MM

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Monday 14th August 2006
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Hi there! Places like BlatChat have a lot more info on these sevens, e.g. www.blatchat.com/t.asp?Id=112881

No idea what cam a "Kent stage 2" is, I assume something like a 244? Not worth risking tuning it much without lots of expense; cheaper to get a later K powered car in the first place?

john7

269 posts

223 months

Monday 14th August 2006
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You've just about summed it up. I've a 1600 x/f 7 and yes they are great to tinker with, especially the twin 40's.
That was one of my reasons for a x/f v K series. However if you are concerned about MPG, then the K is a better option. If you start to look at tuning the 1700 I think your £'s per fun factor would be expensive, however, you pays your money ....... etc.

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Tuesday 15th August 2006
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MunkeeMan said:
(although I recently test drove a 340r and was welll impressed with the VHPD).




Drive a Caterham with a VHPD and you'll have to recalibrate your brain - the 340R's lump of lard compared to an SLR/R400!...and then there's the R500.....

Damiencbr

2,037 posts

230 months

Thursday 17th August 2006
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Munkeeman,

I am sorry to hear of your experience. I cant help....sorry but you must have been mighty P!ssed off.

Hopefully get fixed soon and you can enjoy it.

D

percy

676 posts

276 months

Thursday 17th August 2006
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Sorry to hear your woes.
I've posted this on Blatchat in the TechTalk section - thread is 'Help needed for 'MunkeeMan''

Could it be the coil breaking down? This has happened a few time on my 1800 X/F - some of the symptoms sound familiar.
Hope it gets sorted

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Friday 18th August 2006
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Possibly it just wasn't charging and the battery ran down? You can go a surprisingly long way with the battery providing the ignition alone, but the spark gets weaker which might explain what's happened. Probably worth changing the plugs again now?

Eric Mc

122,856 posts

272 months

Friday 18th August 2006
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From talking to other 7 owners, 1700 cc Crossflow 7s tend to have more problems than the less strssed 1600 cc Crossflows.
One of the problems with all Crossflow 7s is that many were built by Caterham themselves (with their own tuned Crossflows) but many were also built from starter kits by their owners who sourced their own engines.

If you are not that mechanically minded and would like some "experts" to look at the car, I would highly recommend Redline Compnents who are actually based in Caterham town centre, not far from the Caterham showroom. Mick and John are top blokes and will put you right every time. I have been using them for ten years and they have been excellent. They have been working on Sevens since the late 1960s and specialise in older models - especially Crossflow variants.

They will even chat to you over the phobe if you want to discuss your problem.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 18th August 08:59

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Saturday 19th August 2006
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MunkeeMan said:
Cheers chaps.

I'm learning more and more as I go on.

The battery was defo flat when I got home, so I'm guessing that the battery was doing all the work for most of my journey home! Spoke to the engine builders (HWR Racing) on the phone and they figure that it's mos likely an alternator/battery issue. Also spoke about Duratec conversions.. something for next year methinks!


HWR - bloke in Newcastle? I spoke to him about a supposed R500 chassis that he had once...

casbar

1,112 posts

222 months

Saturday 19th August 2006
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My first Caterham had a xflow engine. I re-built it with a mate to 1700 spec, it had forged pistons etc and was totally reliable. The sad fact about xflows, is that you do sometimes have to tinker, carbs need re-ballancing etc. My engine used to kill alternators every couple of years, due possibly to them spinning faster than they were designed to on a standard tin top, plus a recon alternator sometimes doesn't last long at all. Good thing is, alternators are cheap and if you bust it within a year, you can exchange for a new one :-))