Treating myself to a Caterham

Treating myself to a Caterham

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Beemer 5

Original Poster:

116 posts

223 months

Saturday 15th April 2006
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I fancy splashing out on a nearly-new Caterham, but never having had one would appreciate some advice.

I cannot decide whether to go for a R500 Evolution with 250 bhp or the 260 bhp Cosworth-engined later model.
It seems that the former is actually the quicker car, from what i can find on the various search engines.

Any Caterham experts care to offer advice?
I want something devilishly quick and good handling and am not bothered about much else.

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Saturday 15th April 2006
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You'll be doing well to find at R500 Evo - they only made a handful. Equally, there aren't many secondhand CSRs around.

The characters of the K and the Ford engined cars are quite different - there's a real bang in the back from a tuned K, the Duratec's power is delivered in a far more linear way. Also, the R500 will be narrow chassised, the CSR in SV form. Whilst I haven't yet driven a CSR, my recent run out as a passenger in one confirmed that the car was deceptively quick and far less nervous around the front end than a tuned K (but this may be as much to do with it being an SV as any inherently changed handling characteristics that the inboard front suspension offers).

Best you get yourself down to Caterham Cars and prebook test drives in the cars that you think you want

jackal

11,249 posts

289 months

Sunday 16th April 2006
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i will be selling mine soon. Other than that you'll be hard pushed to find a used duratec powered car.

Peter T

146 posts

247 months

Monday 17th April 2006
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The R500 is a very light car, it is nervous and twitchy at any speed. The car drives nothing like a Ford or Vauxhall engined version due to the weight saving parts also the light k series engine.

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Monday 17th April 2006
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Peter, does that mean you don't like yours?

superlightr

12,900 posts

270 months

Monday 17th April 2006
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They are almost all very fast and handle very well. I would sugest a Superlight 1.6 or a Superlight R 1.8 Now called a R300. Super for the road, fantasitc for the track, Should be about 190bhp and it will be fast enough! - for your first 7 and even your 2nd, 3rd etc

Peter T

146 posts

247 months

Tuesday 18th April 2006
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Rubystone, i love my R500, but it handles nothing like my Xe engined one.
Does lack a bit of torque at lower RPM, but has the kick in the *ss from a mule.

madazrx7

5,080 posts

224 months

Tuesday 18th April 2006
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jackal said:
i will be selling mine soon. Other than that you'll be hard pushed to find a used duratec powered car.

So what have you got planned next Rich? or is it a secret? I see there are still no updates on your website

Tim

jackal

11,249 posts

289 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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nothing planned.... after 9 non-stop years im taking a much needed break. May get something next year but it will prolly be a sort of emotional/classic buy if i see something that really hooks me in & something more to do with nostalgia and the simple pleasure of just owning it i.e. not for tracking or driving hard.

In the last few years ive seen a few cars that fit that bill, cars that i would have bought on the spot had i not had the Duratec: a yellow esprit sport 300, a pistachio Elan S4 sprint FHC, a mint green 930 turbo, a riviera blue 968cs with blue alloys etc... Its a case of waiting for soemthing to come along that you simply cannot 'not own'.

madazrx7

5,080 posts

224 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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Hmm I took a 'break' after racing continuously for 11 years, was going to have a year off then get another car... 15 years and 2 kids later I'm finally about to start again

jackg

290 posts

279 months

Beemer 5

Original Poster:

116 posts

223 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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Bought a used R400. Picking it up next week. Decided that the 400 would be enough.

Beemer 5

Original Poster:

116 posts

223 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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200 bhp i think it is.

jackal

11,249 posts

289 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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thats a shame!

granville

18,764 posts

268 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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If you don't mind me asking, what sort of 'coin' are 2nd hand R400s bringing?

Good choice, btw: I found this one the perfect model out of the then three quickies and the chaps at Caterham reckoned it was the best mix of longevity/reliability and power.

Even so, I can't help thinking I'd be better off in one of those supercharged Exiges but every time I water mine, there's something quasi-exoskeletal about the pilchard tin which keeps holding my affections.

Almost nothing beats romping out over a chlly moorscape with that staccatto blatt screaming it's air-tearing response to yon ankle's willing.

Truly world class lunacy.

Beemer 5

Original Poster:

116 posts

223 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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I got it for £25K, with 4000 miles on the clock, a 2004 car.

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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derestrictor said:
If you don't mind me asking, what sort of 'coin' are 2nd hand R400s bringing?



I've seen them for £19k - earlier ones. SLRs are the best bargain can be bought for £13k now. Graham Hathaway has an R400 that's only ever been used on track - he's trying to sell it at the moment for circa £16k but I think would take less for it.

iguana

7,056 posts

267 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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derestrictor said:
can't help thinking I'd be better off in one of those supercharged Exiges


Ah my good Earl, ask mr clubsport, we were both fans of the one we hooned around Hethel, its a glorious bit of kit & a terrific wagon, but not close to the rawness of your R400 my lud.

Beemer 5

Original Poster:

116 posts

223 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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This R400 seemed expensive, but is 1 owner, just 3800 miles and mint. I think £25K was the right price to pay.

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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Beemer 5 said:
This R400 seemed expensive, but is 1 owner, just 3800 miles and mint. I think £25K was the right price to pay.


That's R500 money, but the R400 is a great car, no doubt about that