Caterham K-Series

Caterham K-Series

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Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd January 2006
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Please help.
i am dreaming of getting a 1.4L Caterham K-Series when i am 18,(3 years)
i was wondering what year the K-Series were made????
also how much BHP is it pushing out?
and i was looking on the net and found a 1.1L Engine, claims its for a K Series,
(would it be possible to swap the engine?)
also any ideas on how much it would cost to insure????

cheers

Autonotiv

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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100 - 130 bhp depending on spec.

Derived from the Metro engine.

Not a lot of torque and IMHO dynamically flawed with a 5 speed. Doesn't make the experience any less "unique" it's just that you'll find it isn't superfast in a straight line and you will be outrdragged by hot hatches.

Cheap way into Sevening but upgrade path is not worth it - go out and buy another 7 if you want more power.

No idea on insurance

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Comes with either 100bhp or 128bhp (normal or Supersport specifications). The 128bhp is the one to go for if you can, this was developed by MG-Rovers Saturday club and is a buzzy little engine (best with the six speed box).

You are going to struggle to get insured on a Seven at 18 but there may be ways. I would suggest joining the L7Club as a first thing and maybe attending an owners club meeting.

autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

231 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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cheers for the replys.
does the L7Club have a website?
also what Caterham do you think would be the best and cheapest
to insure for an 18 or 19 year old????
and do you know if you can get thr K-Series in a 1.1L??????

cheers

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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1.4K-Series is the cheapest to run and will probably be the cheapest to insure. It will do 40+mpg which will also save you money over an older crossflow engined car. Not sure if the 1.1 litre Metros were a K-Series, this engine has never been available in a Caterham.

Lotus 7 Owners club is at www.lotus7club.co.uk/

R300 CYA

241 posts

235 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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i paid just over a grand for my insurance at 20 on a 1.8 supersport with 140 bhp, ive just turned 22 and got an R300, insurance is 900 at mo and just about to renew, dont know if that helps at all?

autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Cheers, that is useful.
I was maybe thinking about getting a Triumph Spitfire 1500 as a first car.
then when i am 18 or 19 hope fully a Caterham.

cheers

Shred-head

45 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th January 2006
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rubystone said:
Not a lot of torque and IMHO dynamically flawed with a 5 speed. Doesn't make the experience any less "unique" it's just that you'll find it isn't superfast in a straight line and you will be outrdragged by hot hatches.
This is mostly true but speed is all relative. When I think back to the nail I had as a first car I think I would have found a 1.4 Caterham quite nippy at that age.

You will get a lot more from the car with a 6 speed 'box though.

Platinum

2,101 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th January 2006
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The 1.1k was used in the Rover 100, 200 & 25.

autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

231 months

Thursday 26th January 2006
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Yea but are any in the Caterham?????

if so would it be cheaper to insure????

cheers

canam

10,057 posts

279 months

Friday 27th January 2006
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No, the smallest K-series fitted in Caterhams was the 1.4. The 1.1 would be a gutless little engine in such a car. The K-series engine was first fitted by Caterham in 1996, I think, and is still in production for the time being.

>> Edited by canam on Friday 27th January 00:54

dino ferrana

791 posts

259 months

Friday 27th January 2006
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I think the K first went in around 93-94 and all of the first ones were 1.4

autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

231 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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cheers for the help,
we will see what happens in a couple of years when i am 18.

cheers

Autonotiv

Eric Mc

122,856 posts

272 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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The K-Series Caterham was launched in 1991. Initially it was only available in 1.4 form but over the years various 1.6 and 1.8 versions were built.

For a first Caterham, a 1.4 would be fast enough, especially for a young driver. They can still do 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds but lack a bit of poke at the top end. On the other hand, highly tuned 1.8 Ks as fitted in the R500 and Superlight R are awesome engines.

I drive a fairly elderly 1.6 Crossflow car which has a broadly similar performance to a 1.4 K but sounds better (and has lousy fuel economics).

autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

231 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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cheers,
looks like it will be a 1.4 then.

lost my mojo

205 posts

232 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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Have a look at 2nd hand kit cars to as you may find that another 7 may be cheaper to insure. Ive just got a quote for my Mojo, im 22 and is only £460 a year.

Could you not insure it under your mum or dads name may work out cheaper and have you as a named driver?

Matt W

153 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Youhould find insurance very cheap compared to other performance cars so long as you go with a specialst insurer and a limited mileage policy.

My only other advice is if you can afford it - do it. It's a decision I've never regretted even though it cost far more than originally anticipated after I caught the track day bug.

canam

10,057 posts

279 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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lost my mojo said:

Could you not insure it under your mum or dads name may work out cheaper and have you as a named driver?

Not a good idea at all. The only way this could work out cheaper is if mum/dad were declared to be the owner/main user, and this would obviously NOT be the case here. So you are lying to the insurance company. Not only does this give the Insurer every chance to avoid paying any claims, they could also void the policy ab initio.

This is called 'obtaining insurance by deception' and can lead to prosecution.

Don't forget our young enthusiast is only 15 years old, so we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. If you can't afford to insure it, then set your sights a bit lower for a year or two, and build up a no claims discount on something rather cheaper to insure.

ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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I first got into Caterhams at a motorshow when I was 16 (so in erm... 1992...). Wanted one ever since. At the age of 23 I could finally afford one so that became the first car I owned (and still own). However, I had built up a lot of experience as a named driver on my parents' car since the age of 17. It is possible to insure one as a youngster but not easy. At 23 my insurance was £1100 (male, no insurance history, parked on the street in N. London) so not bad compared to hot hatches. I have no idea if an under-21 can insure one as a daily driver...

Don't let people knock your dreams, just be prepared to pay for them

Matt W

153 posts

245 months

Saturday 18th February 2006
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FYI my insurance, at 23, limited to 3000 miles was about £350.