RE: Caterham's new C400 breaks cover

RE: Caterham's new C400 breaks cover

Monday 5th December 2005

Caterham's new C400 breaks cover

Cosworth-powered racer weighs just 525Kg


Caterham C400
Caterham C400
Caterham's newest track challenger, the Cosworth-powered C400, has broken cover. The new machine, which features a 2-litre Ford Duratec engine with 220bhp and 160lb-ft of torque, is currently undergoing a comprehensive test and development programme.

The new 525Kg car, based on the R400 chassis and boosted by Caterham's development partner Minister Racing Engines, has already completed hundreds of laps at circuits across the UK.

Eurocup and UK Caterham Challenge frontrunner Ben Dezille Butler has undertaken much of the development driving and was impressed. "Although the test and development programme is not yet complete, the new car has demonstrated that it is significantly quicker," said Butler. "You really notice the extra torque out of the corners and on a long straight the C400's extra power means you can change gear earlier and achieve a higher top speed."

Minister boss Graham Fuller said: "We are very pleased with the way the test programme is going, although we have been occasionally frustrated by the weather. Our testing is on-going and we hope to complete it before Christmas."

Project management of the new car is being overseen by Caterham Cars director of motorsport Magnus Laird, who said: "The combination of the tried and tested R400 chassis and this potent and compact Cosworth engine is proving to be the most fantastic package - a really worthy successor to the R400."

The new engine develops 220bhp -- 20bhp more than the K-Series unit of the existing R400 model. Caterham engineering director Jez Coates said: "The larger capacity of the Cosworth engine means that it has a much greater tolerance of high temperatures and the sort of punishment it will face on the race track. The unit has just successfully undergone a 50-hour durability test at Cosworth."

The C400 will next season share UK Caterham Challenge and Eurocup grids with the outgoing R400 model. Several orders have already been received for new cars from Roadsport Challenge drivers wishing to progress up the Caterham racing ladder, and Caterham is also experiencing keen interest in kits to convert R400s to C400 specification.

Backers for Caterham Motorsport's UK and European race series include Arch Motors, Autosport, Bilstein, Brian James Trailers, Comma, Cosworth, Cooper-Avon Tyres, evo, HSBC Insurance Brokers, Mitchell Cotts, Motorsport News, PTP and Stack.

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Hendry

Original Poster:

1,945 posts

289 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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How confusing! Seemingly having reverted to the numbers in model designations meaning the power figure (CSR200, CSR260) with the Cosworth powerplant, for this they now refer to something that might be the power to weight ratio (although it isn't, as that is now 420bhp/tonne).

Those guys are crazy!

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Whatever looks best I guess; the bhp per ton of the CSR200/260 aren't that great. Not sure why they didn't just put the 2.3 engine in the racer - it's only a few kgs heavier.

rj

57 posts

234 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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I think that's to give the old R400's a chance!

These are still eglible to race in the 2006 season, and as both volume and power already has been increased over the R400 it isn't a too fair game even with the 2ltr...

mrloudly

2,815 posts

242 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Engine's still too tall for the car!! Something like 35mm clearance under the sump!! My old R400 was bad enough for grounding on std springs even with its dry sump!! Stiffen 'em up and it'll blurr your vision on the road!!

jackal

11,249 posts

289 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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plenty of clearance under my 2.0 duratec sump, >5cm
and thats with a low front ride height circa 10cm with the wishbones slightly pointing downward

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Tuesday 6th December 2005
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mrloudly said:
Engine's still too tall for the car!! Something like 35mm clearance under the sump!!
Really? I have a 2.3 in my R500 and there's certainly a lot more clearance than that - in fact, I don't think the sump has a mark on it. It's only about 2cm taller than the 2.0, and it's upwards rather than downwards if you see what I mean; i.e. the head is taller, not a deeper sump. I think rj must be right about giving the existing cars a chance

mic

376 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th December 2005
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The 2.3 fits under the Series 3 bonnet with a standard cam cover, without the need to lower the engine in the chassis.



>> Edited by mic on Tuesday 6th December 19:36

jackal

11,249 posts

289 months

Wednesday 7th December 2005
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dannylt said:
[quote=mrloudly]in fact, I don't think the sump has a mark on it.




you're not trying hard enough Danny




hows the engine coming along btw ?

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Wednesday 7th December 2005
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The sump doesn't have a mark on it because the bell housing touches down first I think . Hi mic - welcome to pistonheads!

mikee

1,850 posts

291 months

Thursday 8th December 2005
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well I asked CC that same question and simon told me the engine was too tall for the standard chassis, so I said loads of people use the 2.3l in an S3 chassis and his response was, "well that's alright for people like you who are prepared to risk a grounded sump but not for the majority of our customers"

personally think they don't want to undermine the performance of the CSR260 with a 2.3l 'R600'

mic

376 posts

240 months

Thursday 8th December 2005
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Hi Rich

Engine is fine, really need to get it mapped. I,m using Dannys' map still.

How is the repair going.

jackal

11,249 posts

289 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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yes good thx
lots of new parts !
will be a minter when its done !

jaker

3,934 posts

276 months

Saturday 10th December 2005
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So do we know if and when this car will be made into a road version?

mikee

1,850 posts

291 months

Monday 12th December 2005
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a friend has one on order and he's been told to expect delivery early summer 2006

jaker

3,934 posts

276 months

Monday 12th December 2005
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Hi Mikee, is that a race or road version he has on order?

mikee

1,850 posts

291 months

Tuesday 13th December 2005
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it's a road version.....

jaker

3,934 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I spoke to Caterham today about pricing... seems to be priced above the CSR200... sounds expensive to me... will have to wait and see what the spec is like I guess.