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Received an e-mail from "7bits" with a solution.
Although I don't have a problem with mine, as I don't have dampers yet.
But at least I'll know to keep an eye on it when measuring the open and closed lengths I require.
I may have to go back to the balljoints anyway, as I think the bolt will foul my rims.
I'll know for sure when they arrive in a few weeks.
Anyone who bought the balljoint kit did sign a disclaimer, which is fair enough considering Arnie is an individual rather than a company.
I still think it's nice gear, and well done for addressing the issue
Although I don't have a problem with mine, as I don't have dampers yet.
But at least I'll know to keep an eye on it when measuring the open and closed lengths I require.
I may have to go back to the balljoints anyway, as I think the bolt will foul my rims.
I'll know for sure when they arrive in a few weeks.
Anyone who bought the balljoint kit did sign a disclaimer, which is fair enough considering Arnie is an individual rather than a company.
I still think it's nice gear, and well done for addressing the issue
mickrick said:
If you buy aftermarket products, you have to make your own mind up if they're suitable of not.
Surely that depends on how they are sold. If they are sold as "direct replacements for the caterham upper balljoint", then the product seller has a duty of care with that statement.If it's part of a bulk buy then it's a bit more grey where the liability lies.
Bert
BertBert said:
mickrick said:
If you buy aftermarket products, you have to make your own mind up if they're suitable of not.
Surely that depends on how they are sold. If they are sold as "direct replacements for the caterham upper balljoint", then the product seller has a duty of care with that statement.If it's part of a bulk buy then it's a bit more grey where the liability lies.
Bert
Also if you read the link you'll see it was a bulk buy.
Cheers,
Mick.
Why would it being a bulk buy make the vendor exempt from liability? Also your're suggesting if something can be poorly designed and unfit for purpose, a vendor can stick in a disclaimer and wash his hands of all responsibility. Well I'm sure the guy selling these has nothing to worry about and will sleep very well.
Why ? It is a Rose joint, not the Space Shuttle. Similar things exist. This isn't something knocked up in a shed. The parts conform to the relevant standards.
They are very well made, the spec is knocking around on BC. There just seems to be a fouling problem given a very specific set of criteria. If I do have a problem, then I will fix it.
I have both the top link and the steering arm. I made a choice to use them, they are just another "bespoke" bit on my car.
Why should you be bothered ? They aren't about to fall to bits.
They are very well made, the spec is knocking around on BC. There just seems to be a fouling problem given a very specific set of criteria. If I do have a problem, then I will fix it.
I have both the top link and the steering arm. I made a choice to use them, they are just another "bespoke" bit on my car.
Why should you be bothered ? They aren't about to fall to bits.
Edited by Noger on Saturday 9th July 13:26
Just playing Devils Advocate. Please don't take it personally. At worst I'd say the biggest claim from any customer would be fitting time but somebody else may get quite irate with your comment that there was little development and testing. I'm a Chartered Engineer and MIMechE. I work in NPI (New Product Introduction) and product design. I conduct FMEA (Failure Mode Effects Analyses) from early schematic stage right through to finish product launch. We look at all the ways it can fail and mitigate the circumstances with further redesign, development, testing, calcs etc. Everything is meticulously recorded and incase there's a claim I can confidently stand up in a court of law and say that I did everything to ensure the design was good for form, fit and function and met the product spec. Whereas you've stated and strongly stand by your comment of doing the minimum. Quite risky.
Did you get lost somewhere ?
You should visit the Kit Car forum, I think you may very well explode with self-righteous engineering indignation
I am sure more than enough testing and design went into the product given the application it is designed for.
Although the smart money would be on you being an alias for one of the usual crowd Seems odd to register a PH account just to reply to this topic
You should visit the Kit Car forum, I think you may very well explode with self-righteous engineering indignation
I am sure more than enough testing and design went into the product given the application it is designed for.
Although the smart money would be on you being an alias for one of the usual crowd
Seems odd to register a PH account just to reply to this topic Edited by Noger on Saturday 9th July 21:56
Why do people get all personal when knowledgeable people point out pit falls that we may fall into and that could cost time, money and at worst injury.
I do not understand why people cannot take information as given and let everyone else make there own mind up instead casting insinuations.
Cheers
Chris
I do not understand why people cannot take information as given and let everyone else make there own mind up instead casting insinuations.
Cheers
Chris
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