Corvette - The Best Kept Sportscar Secret

Corvette - The Best Kept Sportscar Secret

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GTO 2 UFO

Original Poster:

92 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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Hi Guys,

Its very quiet on the Vette forum this Christmas ! So I started looking at other forums - specifically TVR cos I used to sell them.

Found one started by a guy who wanted to know what is the best TVR to buy for less than £20K to replace his Porker Boxster S. It is Seven pages long already, and its been all over the place. Don't you just love Porsche and TVR afficionados ?!

So I took off my TVR coat and put on my Corvette mantle. My contribution is on Page 7, by GTO 2 UFO. Wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't unleash a torrent of vitriol !!

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0... S to TVR.....?
(Topic is entitled "Boxster S to TVR").

If it does, I would welcome some backing guys ! About time Vettes stopped being "Best Kept Sportscar Secrets" !!

Happy Christmas,
Chas

Edited by GTO 2 UFO on Sunday 26th December 17:35

C6NL

643 posts

266 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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I threw a bone in myself, LOL

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

266 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Just stuck my oar in...hehe

GTO 2 UFO

Original Poster:

92 posts

217 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Well done the team ! That thread has warmed up nicely. Been back in again and had another play !!

Its actually very interesting that noone has thrown their teddies about or had a hissy fit yet. Must be the season of good will to all men (and ladies too).

Merry Christmas one and all wobble !

fatbutt

2,895 posts

270 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Best kept secret?! I see 10+ a day on my trip into work. There's a forecourt full to the brim of them less than a mile from the office!

They may be rare in the UK but they most certainly are not here in the US. And they're so prevalent because in the US they're dirt cheap (compared to Porsche, etc) so its easy to overlook their shortcomings.

GTO 2 UFO

Original Poster:

92 posts

217 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Hi Fatbutt,

That's the bit we Limey Vette owners don't quite get ! Bunches of Vettes in the US of A at half the price they cost by the time they are landed in the UK.

Realistically the only 2 things that GM needs to do for the UK market is to offer Grand Sports with interiors to Jaguar standard - with RHD - and they would have no competition in the market - provided new ones could be had for about £60 - £65K.

They would also need to ensure that the dealers supporting the product were at least interested in the Brand (R.I.P Stratstone !). Due respect to you Mitch at Bauer Millett !!

Seasons Greetings !

Edited by GTO 2 UFO on Monday 27th December 18:33

jeff m

4,060 posts

264 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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GTO 2 UFO said:
Hi Fatbutt,

That's the bit we Limey Vette owners don't quite get ! Bunches of Vettes in the US of A at half the price they cost by the time they are landed in the UK.

Realistically the only 2 things that GM needs to do for the UK market is to offer Grand Sports with interiors to Jaguar standard - with RHD - and they would have no competition in the market - provided new ones could be had for about £60 - £65K.

They would also need to ensure that the dealers supporting the product were at least interested in the Brand (R.I.P Stratstone !). Due respect to you Mitch at Bauer Millett !!

Seasons Greetings !

Edited by GTO 2 UFO on Monday 27th December 18:33
Is it that the States doesn't supply cars or that UK dealers don't want to hold inventory?
No shortage of new Vettes.

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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GTO 2 UFO said:
Realistically the only 2 things that GM needs to do for the UK market is to offer Grand Sports with interiors to Jaguar standard - with RHD - and they would have no competition in the market - provided new ones could be had for about £60 - £65K.
I never knew the motor trade was so simple!

The Perana Z-one (essentially a South African built Zagato body with Corvette mechanicals) is due in UK anytime soon with RHD but the price keeps creeping up and the darned thing is being sold without ABS.

http://www.superformance.com/News_View.aspx?Articl...



Dr-Bob

6,629 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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"Viper" rare in the US and very rare in the UK...... Porsche's and Vettes are COMMON.... LOL!!!!!


I'm off now....

fatbutt

2,895 posts

270 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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For your info.

http://www.expomc.com/invsys/invlist.php

2009 Corvette, $39,991 (2010 Corvette $75,000).

'Vettes are cheap and disposable here.

GW65

623 posts

212 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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fatbutt said:
For your info.

http://www.expomc.com/invsys/invlist.php

2009 Corvette, $39,991 (2010 Corvette $75,000).

'Vettes are cheap and disposable here.
To quote a work colleague of mine commenting on my car:
Him: I've never known anyone with a really flash car.
Me: What about Roy, he's got a 911?
Him: Nah, 911s are ten-a-penny...

Different perspective depending on the side of the pond you live on. I know Vettes are relatively common in the US, but that doesn't stop them being fun cars (and importantly with a fairly large V8!). Over here you also get the "what the Hell is it?" factor too.

Vet Guru

2,181 posts

246 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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GW65 said:
fatbutt said:
For your info.

http://www.expomc.com/invsys/invlist.php

2009 Corvette, $39,991 (2010 Corvette $75,000).

'Vettes are cheap and disposable here.
To quote a work colleague of mine commenting on my car:
Him: I've never known anyone with a really flash car.
Me: What about Roy, he's got a 911?
Him: Nah, 911s are ten-a-penny...

Different perspective depending on the side of the pond you live on. I know Vettes are relatively common in the US, but that doesn't stop them being fun cars (and importantly with a fairly large V8!). Over here you also get the "what the Hell is it?" factor too.
I agree with Gary, Anytime I go to Le Mans you have a choice of supercar from Astons,Lambos and it seems more people take photos of the Vettes than most of the others because you don't see one every day and they look alot more expensive than they are

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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Dr-Bob said:
"Viper" rare in the US and very rare in the UK...... Porsche's and Vettes are COMMON.... LOL!!!!!


I'm off now....
Viper's are especially rare as most owners don't drive them for at least half the year......

Edited by vetteheadracer on Saturday 1st January 09:12

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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just been over and stuck my size 9 in smile

Big Tav

645 posts

170 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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I would have a C5 in a heartbeat. The fuel bill is putting me off a bit right now for daily use. Will definitely own one soon.

mitch_

1,282 posts

230 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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GTO 2 UFO said:
Hi Fatbutt,

That's the bit we Limey Vette owners don't quite get ! Bunches of Vettes in the US of A at half the price they cost by the time they are landed in the UK.

Realistically the only 2 things that GM needs to do for the UK market is to offer Grand Sports with interiors to Jaguar standard - with RHD - and they would have no competition in the market - provided new ones could be had for about £60 - £65K.

They would also need to ensure that the dealers supporting the product were at least interested in the Brand (R.I.P Stratstone !). Due respect to you Mitch at Bauer Millett !!

Seasons Greetings !

Edited by GTO 2 UFO on Monday 27th December 18:33
Well I wish I could agree here but I just can't. Past history has shown that RHD isn't the fundamental reason why the Corvette remains a niche. After all you had the VXR8 being offered new for £35k and it took just short of three years for Vauxhall to clear the 300 or so it brought in. Corvette is designed with Americans, their cities, roads and usage patterns in mind. Most places in the U.S. Would destroy a Porsche in a heartbeat, but there is no denying that the Germans have the edge when it comes to finishing touchs. C7 wil have a greater focus on interior build quality and should hopefully start in the mid £60k's, but RHD is never going to happen. There's no viability in it and if you two used Corvettes at three years old, one RHD and th other LHD I'd actuall suggest the lefty would be worth more. This has already been seen with some Cadillac over the last couple of years.

GTO 2 UFO

Original Poster:

92 posts

217 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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I bow to your superior knowledge Mitch but, whenever I quietly suggested to a TVR owner that they might like to consider a Corvette, the answer was invariably: "Like the cars, but I'd want RHD, and the interior is too plasticy".

However, there are very few nowadays who ever "if" a modern Corvette's handling ! And whenever I take the C6 Z06 on a European touring trip with TVR owners, the Corvette is admired when stationary and earns respect when on the move.

You're the man to do it Mitch. Why not start a Topic on the TVR Forum entitled "Don't put a 'Vette engine in a TVR, buy a 'Vette" ? Could result in some converts and new customers for you !

Happy New Year and a Succesful and Prosperous 2011 to one and all,
Chas

cheeky

2,102 posts

270 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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I've got to agree with Chas here. At work I'm surrounded by people who could just as easily be considering a Corvette instead of that Porsche, Aston, Jag, Maserati etc. But the first thing they always cite as a reason not to is the LHD aspect. The next reason is usually the uneducated (or miseducated) "but it doesn't go round corners". And if they get as far as sitting inside one, then they'll sometimes say the interior's plasticky.

GM can do something about two of those things and time will change opinions on the other one.

Everyone I know who knows my Z06 thinks it's great. But despite everything I say on the topic, they won't consider buying one as long as it's LHD.

For as long as I own a LHD Z06, I don't particularly want to see RHD ones launched. But GM would sell loads of them in UK, Australia, India, SA, Japan etc. if it launched a RHD version.

Oh and Chas why've you disappeared from that Boxster vs. TVR thread...?

ringram

14,700 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Dr-Bob said:
"Viper" rare in the US and very rare in the UK...... Porsche's and Vettes are COMMON.... LOL!!!!!


I'm off now....
Sadly impractical (hence why they are rare) due to excessively small luggage space and tight/short cabin for midgets only.

Otherwise Id agree, they are also an option. The Gen5 will be interesting to see if they have addressed the above.

The Vette blows the Viper away on both accounts and is therefore the more suitable vehicle to take the title.

ViperDave

5,571 posts

259 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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ringram said:
Dr-Bob said:
"Viper" rare in the US and very rare in the UK...... Porsche's and Vettes are COMMON.... LOL!!!!!


I'm off now....
Sadly impractical (hence why they are rare) due to excessively small luggage space and tight/short cabin for midgets only.

Otherwise Id agree, they are also an option. The Gen5 will be interesting to see if they have addressed the above.

The Vette blows the Viper away on both accounts and is therefore the more suitable vehicle to take the title.
I have a vette and 2 vipers and can not agree with you. there isn't much in it between the two on luggage space, just the shape of object it can take, i can get things in the viper i cant get in the vette and vice versa. as for only getting midgets in, well there may be a few smaller members of the viper club but they are not fully representative, some of us are normal size, some of us are "well built and big boned" and some are over 6ft, we all fit just fine.