C6 better than a C5
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As I suspect a good number of you have owned or experienced both.
How do you guys reckon the C6 truly compared to the C5? Underneath they are pretty similar, similar weight, same engines and transmissions (bar the 6 speed auto thingy).
I know the C5 was quite a leap up from the C4. But are the C5 and C6 closer matched? Part of me prefers the more sweeping lines of the C5.
Thanks.
How do you guys reckon the C6 truly compared to the C5? Underneath they are pretty similar, similar weight, same engines and transmissions (bar the 6 speed auto thingy).
I know the C5 was quite a leap up from the C4. But are the C5 and C6 closer matched? Part of me prefers the more sweeping lines of the C5.
Thanks.
C6 is smaller and much the same weight. Lower CFD as well.
05 model diff was weak and had older 24x crank and therefore a b
d ECU.
06+ models better diff and 58x cranks plus 6 speeds started arriving around then.
I like the look of the C6 more, but they are £10k more in general. Which makes the C5 all the more appealing.
Im looking to purchase one or t'other at some point for some NA performance enhancement to show the blower boys how a proper engine works without resorting to cheating
Of course the Z51 option is preferred in either model. Or of course a nice Z06!
05 model diff was weak and had older 24x crank and therefore a b
d ECU.06+ models better diff and 58x cranks plus 6 speeds started arriving around then.
I like the look of the C6 more, but they are £10k more in general. Which makes the C5 all the more appealing.
Im looking to purchase one or t'other at some point for some NA performance enhancement to show the blower boys how a proper engine works without resorting to cheating
Of course the Z51 option is preferred in either model. Or of course a nice Z06!
ringram said:
C6 is smaller and much the same weight. Lower CFD as well.
05 model diff was weak and had older 24x crank and therefore a bd ECU.
06+ models better diff and 58x cranks plus 6 speeds started arriving around then.
I like the look of the C6 more, but they are £10k more in general. Which makes the C5 all the more appealing.
Im looking to purchase one or t'other at some point for some NA performance enhancement to show the blower boys how a proper engine works without resorting to cheating
Of course the Z51 option is preferred in either model. Or of course a nice Z06!
I've not been in a C6 so I don't have any real comparison. I would expect the C6 to be better in pretty much every reguard, but was curious to how much, if that makes sense 05 model diff was weak and had older 24x crank and therefore a b
d ECU.06+ models better diff and 58x cranks plus 6 speeds started arriving around then.
I like the look of the C6 more, but they are £10k more in general. Which makes the C5 all the more appealing.
Im looking to purchase one or t'other at some point for some NA performance enhancement to show the blower boys how a proper engine works without resorting to cheating
Of course the Z51 option is preferred in either model. Or of course a nice Z06!
ringram said:
Base c6 has equal performance to Z06 C5 (excepting perhaps brakes)
LS2 vs LS1
Straight line only though I'd have thought, although looking at stats the C5 z06 would still appear a bit quicker. But I'd have thought better in the corners.LS2 vs LS1
I guess what I'm trying to ask is, how big or noticeable difference would it be from a C5 coupe to a C6 coupe, both 6 speed manual. forget track times and hot laps, just normal everyday use and road fun.
Guess the only way I can describe it, is if you go from a S1 Land Rover Discovery to a S2. Yes the S2 is better, but its more a refinement of the S1 rather than a revolution. Where as a S2 to the Disco 3 is a huge leap and very, very different.
ringram said:
I like the look of the C6 more, but they are £10k more in general. Which makes the C5 all the more appealing.
Im looking to purchase one or t'other at some point for some NA performance enhancement to show the blower boys how a proper engine works without resorting to cheating
Of course the Z51 option is preferred in either model. Or of course a nice Z06!
I`m watching you sunshineIm looking to purchase one or t'other at some point for some NA performance enhancement to show the blower boys how a proper engine works without resorting to cheating
Of course the Z51 option is preferred in either model. Or of course a nice Z06!
The C6s I've driven showed useful improvement over C5, although IMO not sufficient to justify the "cost of change" involved in trading up. Most notably the 6-speed paddle-shift auto is a much better transmission than the 4-speed. Manual remains weighty.
Styling-wise the front of C6 is short on sports car drama. I like the "long and low" look of C5.
Waiting for some first pics and spec of C7. Even if limited by being a further development of C5/C6 platform it should be quite something in the performance department. Styling will be the big question.
Styling-wise the front of C6 is short on sports car drama. I like the "long and low" look of C5.
Waiting for some first pics and spec of C7. Even if limited by being a further development of C5/C6 platform it should be quite something in the performance department. Styling will be the big question.
A C6 is way better than a C5 in looks, power, handling, and driver appeal! 10 years ago a C5 was a good drive, but its a bit of a dinosaur now and looks very dated with its pop up headlights! Get yourself a manual C6 and you will be more than happy! Its well worth the extra $! Good luck in your search!
I used to have an '01 C5 convertible base auto, now have an '08 C6 convertible Z51 auto. There was a 4-year gap between then so I've never done a true back-to-back, but the C6 (LS3) subjectively feels much quicker, handles better, and has MUCH better brakes. The interior has fewer "oh my God why didn't they spend $.02c more on that bit" components, but not fundamentally different. Styling is subjective, but again the C6 is better detailed (whether you like those details or not!).
V10 BAT said:
ringram said:
I like the look of the C6 more, but they are £10k more in general. Which makes the C5 all the more appealing.
Im looking to purchase one or t'other at some point for some NA performance enhancement to show the blower boys how a proper engine works without resorting to cheating
Of course the Z51 option is preferred in either model. Or of course a nice Z06!
I`m watching you sunshineIm looking to purchase one or t'other at some point for some NA performance enhancement to show the blower boys how a proper engine works without resorting to cheating
Of course the Z51 option is preferred in either model. Or of course a nice Z06!
What rwhp?
You will be traction limited and lose
Still stock ,even the clutch is still the original.
Witch breaks loose before the wheels do
RWHP 533 8lbs boost.
Not tweeked with the efi live yet
I`m kind of waiting for something to break so i can do
the clutch and block.Is nice to have it together and just drive it.
Traction, correct it could be better.
On topic i like the c6,but for me i dont find myself saying oh i gotta have
one of those.Ok im sure they drive great etc,but if you stumble at the first
hurdle (style shape) you find you dont get the need to actually get in one.
Each to their own,if it makes us smile thats a good thing.
Witch breaks loose before the wheels do
RWHP 533 8lbs boost.
Not tweeked with the efi live yet
I`m kind of waiting for something to break so i can do
the clutch and block.Is nice to have it together and just drive it.
Traction, correct it could be better.
On topic i like the c6,but for me i dont find myself saying oh i gotta have
one of those.Ok im sure they drive great etc,but if you stumble at the first
hurdle (style shape) you find you dont get the need to actually get in one.
Each to their own,if it makes us smile thats a good thing.
Cheers. If I'm honest I like both and sadly not quite in a position to buy yet. But I've sort of made it a personal mission to own a Corvette at some point (fairly soonish if I can manage it).
Part of me says a C2 58 in red/cream, until you look at the prices!
But I really like all Vettes, some C3's are superb and prices only seem to be going up. But lack of manuals dampens enthusiasm. The C4 really appeals, ok I know it's not as good as a modern one. But I really like the shape, and part of me says it'll be a classic in the future. But I'm picky, if I went C4 I want a manual 4+3 with an L98, and them seem even rarer than manual C3's.
So it brings us to the C5, which I've always loved the looks of. Still have the original Auto car test on it somewhere. But once you get to this money I have to honestly ask myself what about a C6.
When it comes down to it, they both look fab, but the C5 probably more so for me. My worry would be that a C5 wouldn't actually be much of an upgrade from the Camaro, same engine at the very least and "similar" performance. My other concern is, if I drove a C6, would jumping into a C5 suddenly feel like I'd entered a time warp. Personally I don't think it would, but if it did I'd always think, umm should have gone C6.
Ok, rambling over/
Ta
Part of me says a C2 58 in red/cream, until you look at the prices!
But I really like all Vettes, some C3's are superb and prices only seem to be going up. But lack of manuals dampens enthusiasm. The C4 really appeals, ok I know it's not as good as a modern one. But I really like the shape, and part of me says it'll be a classic in the future. But I'm picky, if I went C4 I want a manual 4+3 with an L98, and them seem even rarer than manual C3's.
So it brings us to the C5, which I've always loved the looks of. Still have the original Auto car test on it somewhere. But once you get to this money I have to honestly ask myself what about a C6.
When it comes down to it, they both look fab, but the C5 probably more so for me. My worry would be that a C5 wouldn't actually be much of an upgrade from the Camaro, same engine at the very least and "similar" performance. My other concern is, if I drove a C6, would jumping into a C5 suddenly feel like I'd entered a time warp. Personally I don't think it would, but if it did I'd always think, umm should have gone C6.
Ok, rambling over/
Ta
C5 was the first "clean sheet" Corvette design for 50 years with every part of the car brand new. Unlike every generation of Corvette before and after there was no "evolution" of the C5 specification to speak of and the last cars were more or less identical to the first. C6 was the first, and very worthwhile, improvement of the basic C5 package and has evolved during its production run with new engines (LS2/LS3) in the base car and a new auto transmission as well. The scale of change between generations C4 to C5 was a huge jump and C5 to C6 was more of a mid-life update. Although the basic 1997 Corvette package would have been time-expired by 2012 after 15 years in production it now seems likely C7 will be a further update.
With base C5 it is IMO the chassis which limits performance. The engine and driveline are more than adequate even after 10 years. C5 brakes as standard are not astoundingly strong although they will definitely stop the car on the road. Where question marks arise is around lift of the front end under hard acceleration (a minor thing) and dive at the front under braking (not so good). Upgrading the brakes will not in itself address this underlying characteristic so "sorting it out" involves wider changes. C6 is better in this crucial area, among many others.
In any Corvette the ultimate question becomes "how fast do you want to drive?". Any of the modern cars will do more or less 0 to 100 mph without the need for a gear change. And there's lots more gears to choose from!
With base C5 it is IMO the chassis which limits performance. The engine and driveline are more than adequate even after 10 years. C5 brakes as standard are not astoundingly strong although they will definitely stop the car on the road. Where question marks arise is around lift of the front end under hard acceleration (a minor thing) and dive at the front under braking (not so good). Upgrading the brakes will not in itself address this underlying characteristic so "sorting it out" involves wider changes. C6 is better in this crucial area, among many others.
In any Corvette the ultimate question becomes "how fast do you want to drive?". Any of the modern cars will do more or less 0 to 100 mph without the need for a gear change. And there's lots more gears to choose from!
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