Top Gear magazine this month

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Godzilla

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2,033 posts

255 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Ignorant journo raving about the new Challenger states that it has independent suspension on all four corners and "You don't find that on a Mustang or a new Camaro... or a Corvette even."

WTF? We all know the Vette has been IRS since 1963 (?), but surely the new Camaro is too, seeing as it is a Holden?

And Paul Horrell who is a good writer normally goes on about how the new Mini Cooper S "swapped hydraulic steering for electric.."

The one thing that I remember most about the previous Mini Cooper S was the stupidly loud whine from the electric power steering. Am I correct?

franv8

2,212 posts

244 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I think you'd be quite correct if you were to have said that the magazine has now become more entertainment than fact...

..I've not bought it for ages, it's also turned into attitude and dropped into a culture Max Power fell into once it got past the first half a dozen issues.

JimexPL

1,446 posts

218 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I only bought it because of the vette article. There are far better magazines out there.
Found Hammonds article quite amusing though.

Le Man

860 posts

213 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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In my opinion, it's now, in descending order of merit, Octane, Motor Sport, Evo, Car, Autosport, Andrex, Top Gear, Izal, Auto Express.

Edited by Le Man on Friday 5th December 14:52

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Godzilla said:
Ignorant journo raving about the new Challenger states that it has independent suspension on all four corners
Perhaps he meant the suspension is independent I.e. Not attached to the car?

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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The general lack of understanding about how a Corvette is put together never ceases to amaze me!

Push rods? Leaf springs? What more is there to know? LOL

franv8

2,212 posts

244 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Some copper in the US quoted to have said 'Those dang Corvettes, hell they handle so bad if you parked one you'd come back an' find it facin' the otehr way'

matth76

83 posts

199 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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The Mustang ("Terminator") Cobra had IRS too (not the latest Shelby GT500 though).

Edited by matth76 on Sunday 7th December 18:53

Godzilla

Original Poster:

2,033 posts

255 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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There is one redeeeming feature of TG mag though, Bill Thomas runs a C6 Victory Edition as his long termer and loves it!

And of course this month's one does feature the ZR1 as their favourite performance car of the year which actually warrants 2 articles, one by Jamie Kitman and one by Clarkson.

Still think the praise heaped on the Challenger is undeserved.
Chevy should have got the Camaro out at the same time. They would have cleaned up... rolleyes

JimexPL

1,446 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Godzilla said:
There is one redeeeming feature of TG mag though, Bill Thomas runs a C6 Victory Edition as his long termer and loves it!

And of course this month's one does feature the ZR1 as their favourite performance car of the year which actually warrants 2 articles, one by Jamie Kitman and one by Clarkson.

Still think the praise heaped on the Challenger is undeserved.
Chevy should have got the Camaro out at the same time. They would have cleaned up... rolleyes
Saw them washing it at the texaco garage near Lambeth bridge yeasterday along with 911HUL.

Le Man

860 posts

213 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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So it's car spotting now is it James?
Time to start the "Buy Tillyard an anorak" appeal fund?

JimexPL

1,446 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Le Man said:
So it's car spotting now is it James?
Time to start the "Buy Tillyard an anorak" appeal fund?
In fact I need a 'buy a car appeal'! Amy has just broken down on the M1 with a fairly terminal metallic rattling sound and smoke/steam coming from the engine bay.
Best case scenario water pump, worst case new engine.

Do you have a p/x that you'd care to donate?

Godzilla

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2,033 posts

255 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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And as if by magic: it was on tonight's Top Gear leaving indelible tyre marks in Basingstoke's Festival Place shopping centre!

Fantastic bit of filming. Looked really brilliant with the Competition Grey 08 wheels. Well done TG!

mitch_

1,282 posts

230 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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JimexPL said:
Le Man said:
So it's car spotting now is it James?
Time to start the "Buy Tillyard an anorak" appeal fund?
In fact I need a 'buy a car appeal'! Amy has just broken down on the M1 with a fairly terminal metallic rattling sound and smoke/steam coming from the engine bay.
Best case scenario water pump, worst case new engine.

Do you have a p/x that you'd care to donate?
Sounds like a rod hanging out of the side of the block...... oops.

LuS1fer

41,541 posts

251 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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TG so rarely deal in facts. The Camaro has IRS although if they were talking about the last one, they'd be right of course.

If you recall, when they tested the GT500, JC said the GT500 didn't have an LSD "which the Roush did" and they both have the exact same LSD. That was aside from his video when he professed the V6 he was driving was a V8.

dinkel

27,121 posts

264 months

Saturday 3rd January 2009
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LuS1fer said:
TG so rarely deal in facts. . . . That was aside from his video when he professed the V6 he was driving was a V8.
Let's make a top 10 - no top 100 of Jezza bks then.

The nasty thing is: TG is watched by the millions.

LuS1fer

41,541 posts

251 months

Saturday 3rd January 2009
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Yes but who cares, it's not as if IRS or non-IRS makes any difference to the great unwashed bullsh*tters of this world who would poop themselves at the very prospect of buying and running a V8 - and it doesn't matter how many times you tell them it's cheaper than your everage hatch, they will harbour and nurture their own sense of self-denial.

Let's be honest for a minute. I once went to see a Corvette out of bravado with no intention of buying it. It took ONE drive to convert me forever to the way of the American V8. I don't give a toss how much better the interior of an Audi is because I don't give a rat's ass for boutique interiors or anodine banality.

Only when you get in and drive do you experience the conversion and all those "considerations" like what anyone else thinks, flies out of the window.

anonymous-user

60 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Someone gave me a copy of TG over the weekend so have caught up with the article at last. Pretty good review I thought.

35secToNuvolari

1,016 posts

209 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Le Man said:
In my opinion, it's now, in descending order of merit, Octane, Motor Sport, Evo, Car, Autosport, Andrex, Top Gear, Izal, Auto Express.

Edited by Le Man on Friday 5th December 14:52
Octane and Motor sport, to me, are about even. If anything, I don't find much useful in Octane's panel of esteemed racer, owners, builder editorials. Roebuck's pieces consistently outperform them.

malc350

1,035 posts

252 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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vetteheadracer said:
Godzilla said:
Ignorant journo raving about the new Challenger states that it has independent suspension on all four corners
Perhaps he meant the suspension is independent I.e. Not attached to the car?
ho ho!