Competitive driving mode??????

[roughrider]

Hi guys.

Yet again picking your collective brains!

I have fitted Corsair wheels + Toyo R888's to my Z06, so unfortunately i have the tyre pressure warning symbol permanently on my instruments. In itself, not a problem, BUT, when i want to use competitive driving mode, the tyre warning actually prevents you selecting it! I can switch traction control off, but not the stability programme.

Any tips/tricks/advice,,,,, PLEASE!!

[mitch_]

There is no way round this. You have to have the tyre pressure sensors fitted to the new wheels. They then need re-programming to the car with a Kandi module. Speaker magnets etc. do not work. Until the car detects these sensors you cannot use Competitive Driving Mode.

[JimexPL]

Sound's like a trip to Manchester or Wavendon then...

It's surprising that the wheel supplier didn't mention this.
Most people tend to buy four additional sensors so that they have a useable spare set of wheels, but they're not particularily cheap.

[mitch_]

I'm pretty sure you can't do that James. The car can only have one set of sensors trained to it at any given time. Most wheel suppliers don't know or don't want to tell you as they can't reprogramme the sensors anyhow.

[JimexPL]

mitch_ said:

I'm pretty sure you can't do that James. The car can only have one set of sensors trained to it at any given time. Most wheel suppliers don't know or don't want to tell you as they can't reprogramme the sensors anyhow.

You're right mitch; the car tends to throw up an error code when you swap the wheels back, but at least it's only a software re set rather than removing and fitting sensors to wheels all the time (to the detriment of the valve threads)

Godzilla and Titan have swapped wheels on their cars so should be able to give their experiences...

[roughrider]

Thanks guys. Thats a bugger then! I naively assumed there was a fuse i could pull out? Life's never that simple!!
Has anyone from across the pond found a way of fooling the danged thang?

[mitch_]

I guess it all depends on how far your nearest dealer is from you. The sensors are better than those used on a number of other manufacturers cars as you can still remove the wheels and as long as you put them back on the same corners they don't need re-training. On Mustangs, the second you take the wheel off the car you've had it.

[Le Man]

Unfortunately, Elvis has left the building

[roughrider]

What about Gracelander, did he get cheesed too?? I'm gonna miss that boy!

[V10 BAT]

roughrider
is your car euro spec...or us spec.
i have a full set of us spec sensors new.
got some wheels way back from wcc,and they fitted us sensors and tyres.
i could not program them,cos of the diff signal us as apposed to euro spec.
i then got new euro sensors rather than take out the originals,and coded
these to my car with a snapon nut and bolt magnet tray thingy.
hope you have a us spec car....all four for £40
cheers Dave t

[songman3]

V10 BAT said:

roughrider
is your car euro spec...or us spec.
i have a full set of us spec sensors new.
got some wheels way back from wcc,and they fitted us sensors and tyres.
i could not program them,cos of the diff signal us as apposed to euro spec.
i then got new euro sensors rather than take out the originals,and coded
these to my car with a snapon nut and bolt magnet tray thingy.
hope you have a us spec car....all four for £40
cheers Dave t

Interesting point you make about differing Euro/USA TPMS transmitter frequencies - is this correct - perhaps the boffins can confirm this?

I imported a Bartec 300 plus TMPS tool to avoid having to make a 500 mile round trip to the dealers each time I needed to reprogram the sensors - it doesn't appear to differentiate between US/Euro type sensors when operating.
Just set it to - Corvette C6 etc and off it goes - works a treat!

http://www.bartecusa.com/wheelrite_tech300_plus.ht...

Thought it was a bit of an extravagance when I first bought it - after 3 TPMS resets required as a consequence of one failed sensor and two flat batteries - well! - it has earned its keep for sure

Edited by songman3 on Wednesday 19th November 19:36

[mitch_]

Just to avoid confusion V10 BAT's fix will not work. Your car is a C5 Z06 and you could reassociate the tyre pressure sensors using a strong magnet and passing it from wheel arch to wheel arch. C6's require an SPX tool to train the sensors to the receivers on each corner. We've tried everything and could not find a way round it. The only way round is to buy the tool. We did, you won't want to. It wasn't cheap.

[z06tim]

I thought the C5 Z06 did not have tyre pressure sensors?

From the factory that model came with a non-run-flat tyre which required a re-inflation kit with a bottle of gunk which would damage the sensors in the wheels if it were used.

[mitch_]

When I looked at V10 Bat's cars it shows a 2001 C5 Z06 so I figured that was what he was referring to, though it did cross my mind that I thought they weren't fitted with TPM's. You are 100% correct about them not being fitted with runflats though.

[Le Man]

roughrider said:

What about Gracelander, did he get cheesed too?? I'm gonna miss that boy!

By the wonders of my Ouija Board I am able to get messages to him.
Do not rule out a return.
Nothing is forever.

[v8yea]

mitch_ said:

When I looked at V10 Bat's cars it shows a 2001 C5 Z06 so I figured that was what he was referring to, though it did cross my mind that I thought they weren't fitted with TPM's. You are 100% correct about them not being fitted with runflats though.

Its been a few years but my 98 euro spec C5 had runflats and sensors,I should imagine 'cos you wouldn't know you had a flat by looking at it.
Were they different to the C5 Z06 ?

[roughrider]

OK, it seems i'm gonna struggle, so, is there a fuse i can remove to disable the stability programme, without disabling ABS? Thus negating the need to faff about with flippin tyre pressure monitors!!

[songman3]

roughrider said:

OK, it seems i'm gonna struggle, so, is there a fuse i can remove to disable the stability programme, without disabling ABS? Thus negating the need to faff about with flippin tyre pressure monitors!!

Pretty sure you are stuck with it, unless you fit and code the TPMS sensors - very frustrating it is for sure.
The integrated TPMS system is a legal requirement in the US due to the fitment of 'runflats'

I faffed round for one month with one faulty sensor and, having eventually obtained and fitted a new sensor, I then faffed around for another month with the unprogrammed sensor still unable to use the handling program, whilst waiting for my local Corvette dealer to obtain the appropriate TPMS tool in order to perform the sensor reset.
I hear you saying - "But they are Corvette dealers- they must have the tools?"
Ah ha! - promises, promises! - sadly not always the case! - the tool never materialised
Proper Corvette dealers like Bauer Millett will of course have the correct tool - but in this particular case I decided to buy a my own personal reset tool so that I always have one to hand, should I need it

They are very useful if you track the car and have different sets of wheels to play with - also if you disconnect the battery, or the system sees a very low voltage, then the TPMS info is lost and you have to reprogram.
Ah - the joys of Corvette ownership

Edited by songman3 on Wednesday 19th November 21:36

[roughrider]

The car is awesome on circuit, but the Active Handling bogs you down when you're nowhere near the limit! To make things worse, i've just read on the Corvette forum [USA], that if you have altered the "stagger" [difference in diameter of wheels front to rear], you are fxxxxd! I'm on 18" front & rear for the Toyo's, so somehow, i've got to eliminate Active Handling [not permanently though].
I'd better go through all the fuses. When i ran an RS500 on track, i used to pull the ABS fuse, as in those days, it was a lethal system!

Thanks for all your help guys, if you think of anything else, please add on again.
Cheers!!

[XTR2Turbo]

what happens if you disconnect the abs sensors?