New car - Z06 advice?
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Hi,
I'm in the process of finally getting a new car in a month or so. The final budget is not set yet but is likely to stretch to a used C6 Z06. It joins some others on the shortlist - Exige S2, Noble M12 GTO-3R, Honda NSX, Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34). It will be used pretty much for weekends only and I expect to cover around 10k miles in it a year. It's also likely to be an only car.
I was wondering if any of the members had experience with more than one of those and what you would recommend.
Specifically to the Z06:
- how does it compare in terms of cost of ownership with the other ones mentioned here? (fuel, insurance, maintenance, tyres and depreciation)?
- I suppose it's likely to provide a similar level of thrills?
- In terms of selling it in a couple of years, how healthy is the demand for used ones and what would a £45k example (now) be worth in three years time with 30k extra miles on the clock but otherwise well maintained?
While the Z06 is much more practical than most of the other alternatives I need some good arguments to convince the (shall I say) 'co-financing' party
I'm in the process of finally getting a new car in a month or so. The final budget is not set yet but is likely to stretch to a used C6 Z06. It joins some others on the shortlist - Exige S2, Noble M12 GTO-3R, Honda NSX, Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34). It will be used pretty much for weekends only and I expect to cover around 10k miles in it a year. It's also likely to be an only car.
I was wondering if any of the members had experience with more than one of those and what you would recommend.
Specifically to the Z06:
- how does it compare in terms of cost of ownership with the other ones mentioned here? (fuel, insurance, maintenance, tyres and depreciation)?
- I suppose it's likely to provide a similar level of thrills?
- In terms of selling it in a couple of years, how healthy is the demand for used ones and what would a £45k example (now) be worth in three years time with 30k extra miles on the clock but otherwise well maintained?
While the Z06 is much more practical than most of the other alternatives I need some good arguments to convince the (shall I say) 'co-financing' party
KM2 said:
Hi,
I'm in the process of finally getting a new car in a month or so. The final budget is not set yet but is likely to stretch to a used C6 Z06. It joins some others on the shortlist - Exige S2, Noble M12 GTO-3R, Honda NSX, Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34). It will be used pretty much for weekends only and I expect to cover around 10k miles in it a year. It's also likely to be an only car.
I was wondering if any of the members had experience with more than one of those and what you would recommend.
Specifically to the Z06:
- how does it compare in terms of cost of ownership with the other ones mentioned here? (fuel, insurance, maintenance, tyres and depreciation)?
- I suppose it's likely to provide a similar level of thrills?
- In terms of selling it in a couple of years, how healthy is the demand for used ones and what would a £45k example (now) be worth in three years time with 30k extra miles on the clock but otherwise well maintained?
While the Z06 is much more practical than most of the other alternatives I need some good arguments to convince the (shall I say) 'co-financing' party
The Exige S2 is a brilliant car, but rubbish when it comes to rain, winter time and mine went through tyres faster than Hamilton at the Nurburgring last year!I'm in the process of finally getting a new car in a month or so. The final budget is not set yet but is likely to stretch to a used C6 Z06. It joins some others on the shortlist - Exige S2, Noble M12 GTO-3R, Honda NSX, Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34). It will be used pretty much for weekends only and I expect to cover around 10k miles in it a year. It's also likely to be an only car.
I was wondering if any of the members had experience with more than one of those and what you would recommend.
Specifically to the Z06:
- how does it compare in terms of cost of ownership with the other ones mentioned here? (fuel, insurance, maintenance, tyres and depreciation)?
- I suppose it's likely to provide a similar level of thrills?
- In terms of selling it in a couple of years, how healthy is the demand for used ones and what would a £45k example (now) be worth in three years time with 30k extra miles on the clock but otherwise well maintained?
While the Z06 is much more practical than most of the other alternatives I need some good arguments to convince the (shall I say) 'co-financing' party
The Exige is fantastic at handling but it also has a rubbish top speed so if you are planning on VMaxing it on the Autobahn you will look pretty silly when a Z06 comes past doing 50 MPH faster than the Exige flat out!
Have experience of an R33 Skyline and again a brilliant car, but always felt a bit heavy.
The C6 Z06 will be cheap to maintain (oil change every 10k miles will cost even at main dealer prices about £300). Tyres should last well past 15,000 miles unless you drive like a complete moron. Insurance - well for me a C6 Z06 would be about £500 per year. Fuel - a C6 Z06 will do about 20 MPG average (don't believe the trip computer as this reads US gallons not UK gallons). Depreciation is always a tricky one and as I haven't polished my crystal ball for a while I would only be guessing at prices in 2 years time.
Thanks a lot, this was really useful. In terms of handling on B roads, how will the ones you have experience of (R33, Exige Z06) compare?
Also how is a Z06 in the wet?
As for driving like a moron, very unlikely I do like my fun behind the wheel but as long as it is on public roads, there needs to be a sufficient safety margin...
Also how is a Z06 in the wet?
As for driving like a moron, very unlikely
I do like my fun behind the wheel but as long as it is on public roads, there needs to be a sufficient safety margin...This thread www.corvettechat.co.uk/topic.asp?p=1&f=100&t=540801&h=27 (a few down from yours on corvettechat.co.uk )provides more insight and some answers. Depreciation might hurt, I expect, but it's a great car.
Speaking as a former Skyline GT-R owner, I can safely say that stock to stock, the Z06 is a far more thrilling car than the earlier GT-Rs (the R35 may be another matter).
The Exige S is a lovely track car by all accounts, but nobody really uses them as an everyday runabout.
The Noble is superb, but lack of support for the now-obsolete model would worry me (as indeed the future of Noble itself would).
By all accounts, if you seek a test drive and are nowhere near Baur Millet (Manchester), then try Stratstone Park Lane rather than Reading. (See the longest thread on this forum!)
However VHR is incorrect about getting 15k miles out of a set of tyres on a C6 Z06!
The standard rear Goodyear run-flats are only good for 5k-8k miles tops, at least for the rears.
However better alternatives are now available, but if you drive it "properly" (i.e. I suppose, like a moron!), rear tyres will be your second biggest running cost behind fuel...
The Exige S is a lovely track car by all accounts, but nobody really uses them as an everyday runabout.
The Noble is superb, but lack of support for the now-obsolete model would worry me (as indeed the future of Noble itself would).
By all accounts, if you seek a test drive and are nowhere near Baur Millet (Manchester), then try Stratstone Park Lane rather than Reading. (See the longest thread on this forum!)
However VHR is incorrect about getting 15k miles out of a set of tyres on a C6 Z06!
The standard rear Goodyear run-flats are only good for 5k-8k miles tops, at least for the rears.
However better alternatives are now available, but if you drive it "properly" (i.e. I suppose, like a moron!), rear tyres will be your second biggest running cost behind fuel...
Thanks a lot for this piece of advice
Tyres might be a lower cost item for me - for work related reasons I get a good deal on them usually. Is there an alternative to the Goodyears, then?
One question I have esentially is whether at that mileage the car will be a thrill to have for 6 or 7 years?
For the Noble I am thrilled and they do seem to be cheaper but my problem is the reliability / servicing. Namely the upfront purchase cost i get "support" with, whereas maintenance and running it comes all out of my own pocket
Tyres might be a lower cost item for me - for work related reasons I get a good deal on them usually. Is there an alternative to the Goodyears, then?
One question I have esentially is whether at that mileage the car will be a thrill to have for 6 or 7 years?
For the Noble I am thrilled and they do seem to be cheaper but my problem is the reliability / servicing. Namely the upfront purchase cost i get "support" with, whereas maintenance and running it comes all out of my own pocket
Godzilla said:
However VHR is incorrect about getting 15k miles out of a set of tyres on a C6 Z06!
The standard rear Goodyear run-flats are only good for 5k-8k miles tops, at least for the rears.
However better alternatives are now available, but if you drive it "properly" (i.e. I suppose, like a moron!), rear tyres will be your second biggest running cost behind fuel...
The standard rear Goodyear run-flats are only good for 5k-8k miles tops, at least for the rears.
However better alternatives are now available, but if you drive it "properly" (i.e. I suppose, like a moron!), rear tyres will be your second biggest running cost behind fuel...
If I drove like you David then I am sure 8k out of a set of rears would be optimistic
, however doing mainly motorway miles 15k is more realistic.Yeah, the GYs have a very shallow tread depth and a surprisingly soft compound (despite the printed treadwear rating).
My 18" Toyo R888 "race" tyres last far longer, although they are pretty hopeless when half worn in the rain...
Michelin are bringing out their Pilot Sport runflats in the original Z06 sizes and I expect them to be the best available for road use. Should be out later this summer supposedly.
My 18" Toyo R888 "race" tyres last far longer, although they are pretty hopeless when half worn in the rain...
Michelin are bringing out their Pilot Sport runflats in the original Z06 sizes and I expect them to be the best available for road use. Should be out later this summer supposedly.
There is an old saying that when you've used 30% of your tread you've lost 80% of your grip. Racing has taught me alot about how tyres work and just how complicated they are. Personally I believe the OEM tyres for a Z06 are past real usefulness after 6,000 miles. More so the rears than the fronts as the rears are worked that much harder in daily driving. The compound is very soft and I have a suspicion that they only have so many heat cycles in them. You're better off keeping any low tread ones for track days as you will get them that much hotter that they've probably come alive one last time before you'd bin them. Just a thought.
Re Z06 servicing you're actually looking closer to 6,000 miles again, but on that one I'd always remind you that oil is cheap and engines aren't. Given how much racing technology went into the LS7 it's incredible that it has such a low maintenance regime as it is.
Re Z06 servicing you're actually looking closer to 6,000 miles again, but on that one I'd always remind you that oil is cheap and engines aren't. Given how much racing technology went into the LS7 it's incredible that it has such a low maintenance regime as it is.
I would be surprised if you checked your tread against the gauges. They don't have a deep tread to start with. But as I've noticed previously, the amount of tread left doesn't bear a direct correlation with how much grip you have at your disposal.
Nigel, oil is cheap when control 100 octane racing fuel is knocking on for £2 a litre.....
KM, other than oil and tyres the maintenance regime is low. The next most likely thing to need replacing are brake pads as they don't have a world of 'meat' on them. The discs seem pretty sound for road use and I've not seen a warped set yet.
M
Nigel, oil is cheap when control 100 octane racing fuel is knocking on for £2 a litre.....
KM, other than oil and tyres the maintenance regime is low. The next most likely thing to need replacing are brake pads as they don't have a world of 'meat' on them. The discs seem pretty sound for road use and I've not seen a warped set yet.
M
mitch_ said:
when control 100 octane racing fuel is knocking on for £2 a litre.....
M
M
I feel your pain.......a mate of mine was racing in the Legends last year and said it would have been cheaper to set fire to a big pile of money.....so god alone knows how much you must be getting through.......but then again I guess you can afford it
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