Question for those with a US import C6
Discussion
Does your Twilight Sentinel (automatic headlights) work? I've actually only just noticed that, on my car, the headlights come on all the time, even in broad daylight. If I flick the lights off during the day, I get the 'Headlamps Suggested' message on the DIC. Wondering if this is a side-effect of DRL deletion on US imports?
Any feedback from others with US cars appreciated.
Cheers,
Ian.
Any feedback from others with US cars appreciated.
Cheers,
Ian.
If your twilight sentinel operates I am guessing that you still have DRLs/orange marker lights during the day as you drive? If so, they're actually not legal. Disconnecting the twilight sentinel is the way to prevent the DRLs from operating and as a result the car will always think it is in ambient dark, hence the headlights coming on every time you start the car. If you turn them off you will get 'headlights suggested' and you can clear this straight off the DIC and it will not come back. Please correct me if this is different for any of you, but this is how we wire our conversions and we have spent a very long time refining our conversion.
Mitch
Mitch
mitch_ said:
If your twilight sentinel operates I am guessing that you still have DRLs/orange marker lights during the day as you drive? If so, they're actually not legal. Disconnecting the twilight sentinel is the way to prevent the DRLs from operating and as a result the car will always think it is in ambient dark, hence the headlights coming on every time you start the car. If you turn them off you will get 'headlights suggested' and you can clear this straight off the DIC and it will not come back. Please correct me if this is different for any of you, but this is how we wire our conversions and we have spent a very long time refining our conversion.
Mitch
Mitch, this is exactly how mine behaves. DRL not operating and headlights come on everytime the car is started, regardless of ambient light level. Slightly irritating that I have to flick the lights off and clear the 'HEADLIGHTS SUGGESTED' message everytime, but there you go. There must be a more elegant solution out there somewhere.Mitch
Cheers,
Ian.
mitch_ said:
If your twilight sentinel operates I am guessing that you still have DRLs/orange marker lights during the day as you drive? If so, they're actually not legal. Disconnecting the twilight sentinel is the way to prevent the DRLs from operating and as a result the car will always think it is in ambient dark, hence the headlights coming on every time you start the car. If you turn them off you will get 'headlights suggested' and you can clear this straight off the DIC and it will not come back. Please correct me if this is different for any of you, but this is how we wire our conversions and we have spent a very long time refining our conversion.
Mitch
Front orange DLRs are not illegal - they have them on all current BMWs. The issue with the C6 is how you handle the rear lights / indicators so they don't come on too. Mitch
mitch_ said:
If your twilight sentinel operates I am guessing that you still have DRLs/orange marker lights during the day as you drive? If so, they're actually not legal. Disconnecting the twilight sentinel is the way to prevent the DRLs from operating and as a result the car will always think it is in ambient dark, hence the headlights coming on every time you start the car. If you turn them off you will get 'headlights suggested' and you can clear this straight off the DIC and it will not come back. Please correct me if this is different for any of you, but this is how we wire our conversions and we have spent a very long time refining our conversion.
Mitch
Interesting as I don't have the DLR's on at all (front ones are now indicators) yet the lights don't come on automatically unless its dark, certainly not at start up unless its in the garage.Mitch
Tom
Ian
I think that the solution is not the same for all C6's as my understanding is that there have been some changes throughout the production run but it's still not straightforward fuse removal as on the C5.
One alternative option is to have the light sensor connected and either leave the car on side lights (the dash will then just says headlights suggested when actually the case) or leave on auto and remember to turn off DLR by rotating the light switch back when you first start the car and pull off. It's best to add a DLR LED indicator so you remember.
David
I think that the solution is not the same for all C6's as my understanding is that there have been some changes throughout the production run but it's still not straightforward fuse removal as on the C5.
One alternative option is to have the light sensor connected and either leave the car on side lights (the dash will then just says headlights suggested when actually the case) or leave on auto and remember to turn off DLR by rotating the light switch back when you first start the car and pull off. It's best to add a DLR LED indicator so you remember.
David
XTR2Turbo said:
Ian
I think that the solution is not the same for all C6's as my understanding is that there have been some changes throughout the production run but it's still not straightforward fuse removal as on the C5.
One alternative option is to have the light sensor connected and either leave the car on side lights (the dash will then just says headlights suggested when actually the case) or leave on auto and remember to turn off DLR by rotating the light switch back when you first start the car and pull off. It's best to add a DLR LED indicator so you remember.
David
Could you clarify which model of BMW now has orange DRL's in the U.K.?? I've never seen one. Volvo used to use DRL's and used the front sidelights, not ambers or indicators. I am pretty certain that this is illegal. Will confirm with my aftersales director though......I think that the solution is not the same for all C6's as my understanding is that there have been some changes throughout the production run but it's still not straightforward fuse removal as on the C5.
One alternative option is to have the light sensor connected and either leave the car on side lights (the dash will then just says headlights suggested when actually the case) or leave on auto and remember to turn off DLR by rotating the light switch back when you first start the car and pull off. It's best to add a DLR LED indicator so you remember.
David
mitch_ said:
XTR2Turbo said:
Ian
I think that the solution is not the same for all C6's as my understanding is that there have been some changes throughout the production run but it's still not straightforward fuse removal as on the C5.
One alternative option is to have the light sensor connected and either leave the car on side lights (the dash will then just says headlights suggested when actually the case) or leave on auto and remember to turn off DLR by rotating the light switch back when you first start the car and pull off. It's best to add a DLR LED indicator so you remember.
David
Could you clarify which model of BMW now has orange DRL's in the U.K.?? I've never seen one. Volvo used to use DRL's and used the front sidelights, not ambers or indicators. I am pretty certain that this is illegal. Will confirm with my aftersales director though......I think that the solution is not the same for all C6's as my understanding is that there have been some changes throughout the production run but it's still not straightforward fuse removal as on the C5.
One alternative option is to have the light sensor connected and either leave the car on side lights (the dash will then just says headlights suggested when actually the case) or leave on auto and remember to turn off DLR by rotating the light switch back when you first start the car and pull off. It's best to add a DLR LED indicator so you remember.
David
Official European cars don't have DRL and only suggest headlamps when it is getting dark.
Thinking about it though, orange sidelights/DRLs must be legal because the "side marker lamps" on Euro/UK cars are orange (although mine aren't anymore, at least when they're not lit!
).
Before:
After:
Thinking about it though, orange sidelights/DRLs must be legal because the "side marker lamps" on Euro/UK cars are orange (although mine aren't anymore, at least when they're not lit!
).Before:
After:
mitch_ said:
XTR2Turbo said:
Ian
I think that the solution is not the same for all C6's as my understanding is that there have been some changes throughout the production run but it's still not straightforward fuse removal as on the C5.
One alternative option is to have the light sensor connected and either leave the car on side lights (the dash will then just says headlights suggested when actually the case) or leave on auto and remember to turn off DLR by rotating the light switch back when you first start the car and pull off. It's best to add a DLR LED indicator so you remember.
David
Could you clarify which model of BMW now has orange DRL's in the U.K.?? I've never seen one. Volvo used to use DRL's and used the front sidelights, not ambers or indicators. I am pretty certain that this is illegal. Will confirm with my aftersales director though......I think that the solution is not the same for all C6's as my understanding is that there have been some changes throughout the production run but it's still not straightforward fuse removal as on the C5.
One alternative option is to have the light sensor connected and either leave the car on side lights (the dash will then just says headlights suggested when actually the case) or leave on auto and remember to turn off DLR by rotating the light switch back when you first start the car and pull off. It's best to add a DLR LED indicator so you remember.
David
Edited by XTR2Turbo on Tuesday 25th March 11:57
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