What's the difference between a US and Euro spec C6/Z06

What's the difference between a US and Euro spec C6/Z06

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KM2

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272 posts

221 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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Just curious, since importing still seems by far the cheaper route to go, what would the differences between the two be?

ws6

420 posts

246 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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wondering too, apart from any differences it seems it's probably worth while saving the money in lieu of a UK warranty

Bought a new SUV through a UK GM dealer and has had a couple of warranty issues, (soon to run out). Save for a catastrophic engine failure it's unlikely that any issues would cost more that what's been saved by self importing, especially at the £/$ rate at the moment.


ringram

14,700 posts

254 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Slightly off topic. But where have you guys found is the best location for purchasing. Kerbeck is on the east coast and I see 07 C6's new for $43,000 aka £21500!
There was another guy westwards with similar pricing. Also the 08 model is shipping now. Putting down around 450bhp by all accounts!
... Ive already started converting some funds via another forum member to US for a late next year purchase of an 09 Camaro so Im starting to look for a friendly dealer stateside.

I have some contacts in the US into cars, so can probably call on them should there be issues with "foreign" customers.

owenemyr

287 posts

266 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Very few US dealers will sell new to non-US residents and for export.
Kerbeck in particular will not.(there are some Florida based and others that will, but you have to search for them)
If you get an US resident friend to buy, then there will be another minimum 6.5% state tax (the figure varies within the various states)
The easiest is to buy privately a nearly new 07 car (especially now that the 08 model is on the radar).
There is no great advantage buying anything earlier than 06 since US depreciation is so much less than the UK (other than greater choice)
A lot of "hot air" is voiced with respect to differences between US sourced and UK cars.
Having had both UK and US sourced cars, I do not believe that there is anything that is a disadvantage compared to the £10,000 savings.
Some things to consider however are:
1, lights will be US xenon direct dipping (not to either R or L), but these have not been either an SVA or MOT issue.
2, the absence of a lens wash on the US cars is only an initial issue with SVA, and easily got round and is not an MOT issue.
3, the required rear fog light/indicators is a simple swap for euro-spec ones.
4, need side repeaters.
5, US radios jump in multiples of 200mhz, i.e 89.9,90.1,90.3,90.5,90.7 etc etc. Most UK stations (other than local) are also within these same bands so its not a major issue.
6, absence of any warranty, I wonder the legality of this given that GM claim a world wide warranty, but anyway, you can always buy an insurance based warranty
GM europe may well claims dozens of other differences, but I doubt that they are of any significance whatsoever.
At the end of the day, its your choice.

ws6

420 posts

246 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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ringram said:
But where have you guys found is the best location for purchasing. .
Guy who sold me the SUV has a contact on the east coast (as well as GM direct but not Chevrolet anymore - a long story), last time I checked, shipping, tax, duty, sva etc it was nearer a £15K saving on new (no warranty).

The U.S. dealer has got some very low mileage second hand C6's in but no ZO6's so not sure where I'm going with this at the moment new, second hand or supercharge my existing LS1. By that time there may be some UK ZO6's up for sale ?

Godzilla

2,033 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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The crucial advantage of a Euro car is you get the world's only 320MPH speedo!

Eat that Veyron owners... laugh

Also can you choose the rather sexy British voice for the sat nav on a US car?

owenemyr

287 posts

266 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Forgot to say, its my impression that Texas is the cheapest state to buy a car in.
I was offered an 07 (March) Z06 for $68k inclusive of 2lt and sat nav etc. and in black, with 1100 miles.
I elected to buy a convertible instead, but the savings are reducing somewhat as Stratsones discount their cars, but I am still about £10k in pocket.

UK_WS6

3,336 posts

210 months

Sunday 8th July 2007
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owenemyr said:
Very few US dealers will sell new to non-US residents and for export.
Kerbeck in particular will not.(there are some Florida based and others that will, but you have to search for them)
If you get an US resident friend to buy, then there will be another minimum 6.5% state tax (the figure varies within the various states)
The easiest is to buy privately a nearly new 07 car (especially now that the 08 model is on the radar).
There is no great advantage buying anything earlier than 06 since US depreciation is so much less than the UK (other than greater choice)
A lot of "hot air" is voiced with respect to differences between US sourced and UK cars.
Having had both UK and US sourced cars, I do not believe that there is anything that is a disadvantage compared to the £10,000 savings.
Some things to consider however are:
1, lights will be US xenon direct dipping (not to either R or L), but these have not been either an SVA or MOT issue.
2, the absence of a lens wash on the US cars is only an initial issue with SVA, and easily got round and is not an MOT issue.
3, the required rear fog light/indicators is a simple swap for euro-spec ones.
4, need side repeaters.
5, US radios jump in multiples of 200mhz, i.e 89.9,90.1,90.3,90.5,90.7 etc etc. Most UK stations (other than local) are also within these same bands so its not a major issue.
6, absence of any warranty, I wonder the legality of this given that GM claim a world wide warranty, but anyway, you can always buy an insurance based warranty
GM europe may well claims dozens of other differences, but I doubt that they are of any significance whatsoever.
At the end of the day, its your choice.
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Are you sure about the dealers?

I think your information may be a little side tracked.

I have just got back from 6 months in Houston, and I went to 2 GM dealers, and they never gave a second thought to the fact that it would not be registered in Texas, and it would simply be taken direct to the shippers agent for export.
I was getting phone calls every 2 to 3 days from both of them asking me when I was going to place the order for a new one.

These are just the 2 dealers I went to for test drives

Knapp Chevrolet Houston Avenue
Mac Haik on Katy Freeway

owenemyr

287 posts

266 months

Sunday 8th July 2007
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I was concentrating on the east coast and must have tried more than a dozen including Kerbeck's and others throughout New England,N and S Carolina,the Mid west, with the same response "no can do"
I found some in Florida, but did not try any in Texas.
All however would sell me an used car for export.
When you tried the Texas dealers where you not resident in the US?
Also in response to the speedo issue, get a Canadian one!

JenkinsComp

918 posts

253 months

Sunday 8th July 2007
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There is a saving to be made when buying from the USA, especially with FX rate being at 2.01:1 like it is now!

Be prepared for hassle and a larger than expected bill though when converting the car to UK spec lights.
Imported C6s prove to be a big hassle to convert as all wiring leads into the ECU and if you don't know what you are doing you could easily feck things up good and proper. I know of garages that have done the work before so know how to again, but it is not a straightforward job.
Also, the sat nav would need to be converted to European spec, and possibly the stereo too.


Edited by JenkinsComp on Sunday 8th July 10:04

UK_WS6

3,336 posts

210 months

Sunday 8th July 2007
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owenemyr said:
I was concentrating on the east coast and must have tried more than a dozen including Kerbeck's and others throughout New England,N and S Carolina,the Mid west, with the same response "no can do"
I found some in Florida, but did not try any in Texas.
All however would sell me an used car for export.
When you tried the Texas dealers where you not resident in the US?
Also in response to the speedo issue, get a Canadian one!
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Hi Owen,
I don't understand the issue about the speedometer?
In TX you only pay sales tax when you register the car with DMVS
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Some cut-down emails follow,
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Hello G,

It has been some time since you submitted your request for information regarding your interest in a Corvette from Mac Haik Chevrolet. Your timing was perfect. Our factory incentives are fantastic! We would like to speak with you regarding the savings available to you.
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Still checking into the Amber lights.
The Wind Blocker is $300.

Your quote is $62,590 plus TT&L. Horace will give you a call.

Model Year: 2007 Division: Chevrolet Retail Car Allocation Group: VET
Model: 1YY67 - Corvette: Convertible Order Type: TRE-Retail Stock

PEG: 3LT
MSRP: $66,905.00

Color Primary Color: 74U - Victory Red

Trim 316: Cashmere Two-tone Highwear Nuance Leather

Options

41T: Convertible Top, Black
AQ9: Seats, Front Sport Bucket
F55: Magnetic Selective Ride Control
FE9: Emissions, Federal requirements
LS2: Engine, 6L, LS2, V8 SFI
MX0: Transmission, 6-speed paddle shift with automatic modes
QX3: Wheels, 5-spoke, chrome aluminum, 18" x 8.5" (45.7 cm x 21.6 cm) front and 19" x 10.0 " (48.3 cm x 25.4 cm) rear
R9N: Premium Trim Pricing Code
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VK3: License plate bracket, front
R8C: Corvette Museum Delivery ,

These are just a few of the cut-down emails when I was buying.

FWIW, I decided not to buy a C6, as I prefer the looks of the C5
I bought a 2004 Commemorative, (last one's made) with just 6xxx miles on the clock.
I am more than happy.

Considering the fact the newer C6 with the LS3 motor will be available now, that seems the best buy ant the moment.
Ship directly out of Houston to Felixtowe

Edited by UK_WS6 on Sunday 8th July 11:05