He who spends the most, goes fastest! C5-R

He who spends the most, goes fastest! C5-R

Author
Discussion

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

60 months

Monday 11th June 2007
quotequote all
This genuine C5-R with real racing heritage is up for auction at the Festival Of Speed later this month. Any bidders?

Sports Competition and Collectors' Motor Cars, 22 Jun 2007
Goodwood Festival of Speed, Chichester, Sussex

Lot No: 440
The ex-Ron Fellows/John O’Connell, ALMS GTS/GT1 Championship-winning
2001 Chevrolet Corvette C5-R ALMS Racing Sports Car
Chassis no. 005
Engine no. 1407

In recent years the growth in popularity of international sports-prototype and GT car racing has seen a number of major manufacturers embrace the concept as a means of showcasing their products before a worldwide audience. In Chevrolet’s case, its quest to transform the Corvette from boulevard cruiser to competitive race-car began back in the late 1990s when GM Motorsports race-team manager Doug Fehan recruited established road-racing specialists Pratt & Miller and Riley & Scott to assist with development.

The racing Corvette was based on the C5 road car but had a longer wheelbase, wider track, a re-engineered 6.0-litre V8 engine and carbon-fibre composite bodywork. Working closely with GM Motorsports engineers, Pratt & Miller wind-tunnel tested a 40% scale model of the production Corvette to develop the latter, which had to be capable of keeping the car on the ground at 200mph. Pratt & Miller were able to call on Ken Brown, who had worked on the production Corvette’s chassis and suspension, to develop the racer’s suspension components and chassis layout, while engine development was handled by GM Motorsports’ engine department. Using the stock LS1 block as a starting point, power was raised to nearly double that of the production engine at around 600bhp in 6.0-litre form. Chevrolet’s commitment to the Corvette race programme has paid handsome dividends, the C5/C6-R winning the ALMS GTS/GT1 championship every year from 2001 to 2006 inclusive.

The Corvette C5-R offered here - chassis number ‘005’ - has played a central role in this success, being the championship-winning car driven by Fellows/O’Connell to seven wins out of ten ALMS GTS/GT1 races contested – including the Sebring 12 Hours - between May 2002 and June 2003. The car was sold to the current owners in Belgium at the end of 2005, and in 2006 contested the FFSA and Belcar series in Europe scoring a number of podium finishes and winning the Zolder 24 Hours outright (full results sheet available). Its most recent competitive outing was on 22nd October 2006 at the FFSA round at Magny Cours, where it finished 3rd and 2nd in the two races, driven by regular pilot (and former GT World Champion) Christophe Bouchut teamed with Roland Berville. It wants only for a new owner to resume its winning ways.

Estimate: £250,000 - 300,000 yikes

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Monday 11th June 2007
quotequote all
Patrick Selleslagh at SRT who currently owns the car will sell it to you for €360,000 which is in my eyes a bargain........and I have been really hoping the lottery numbers come up.

Colvette

844 posts

253 months

Monday 11th June 2007
quotequote all
vetteheadracer said:
Patrick Selleslagh at SRT who currently owns the car will sell it to you for €360,000 which is in my eyes a bargain........and I have been really hoping the lottery numbers come up.
A bargain?? How so? Is it 2000bhp or something? Surely your car (which I expect cost you a fair bit less than that) is quicker, no?

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Monday 11th June 2007
quotequote all
Colvette said:
vetteheadracer said:
Patrick Selleslagh at SRT who currently owns the car will sell it to you for €360,000 which is in my eyes a bargain........and I have been really hoping the lottery numbers come up.
A bargain?? How so? Is it 2000bhp or something? Surely your car (which I expect cost you a fair bit less than that) is quicker, no?
This car is a proper race car i.e. full tube chassis with carbon fibre body panels and weights about 1125kgs compared with mine at about 1450kgs. With the restrictors the C5R makes about 600BHP which is only 50BHP less than mine but it weighs over 300kgs less.......without the restrictors who knows how fast it would be.
It also has race pedigree which adds to its value.

Mark my words this car will be worth at least 10 x that amount in 20 years time......you only have to look at the value of the Grand Sports to see that.

UK_WS6

3,336 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
quotequote all
vetteheadracer said:
Colvette said:
vetteheadracer said:
Patrick Selleslagh at SRT who currently owns the car will sell it to you for €360,000 which is in my eyes a bargain........and I have been really hoping the lottery numbers come up.
A bargain?? How so? Is it 2000bhp or something? Surely your car (which I expect cost you a fair bit less than that) is quicker, no?
This car is a proper race car i.e. full tube chassis with carbon fibre body panels and weights about 1125kgs compared with mine at about 1450kgs. With the restrictors the C5R makes about 600BHP which is only 50BHP less than mine but it weighs over 300kgs less.......without the restrictors who knows how fast it would be.
It also has race pedigree which adds to its value.

Mark my words this car will be worth at least 10 x that amount in 20 years time......you only have to look at the value of the Grand Sports to see that.
,
,Vetteheadracer,
What have you done to yours to get 650hp?
I can understand you may have put a lot of time and effort into it, not to mention cash.
Where did you start?
Thanks

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
quotequote all
UK_WS6 said:
vetteheadracer said:
Colvette said:
vetteheadracer said:
Patrick Selleslagh at SRT who currently owns the car will sell it to you for €360,000 which is in my eyes a bargain........and I have been really hoping the lottery numbers come up.
A bargain?? How so? Is it 2000bhp or something? Surely your car (which I expect cost you a fair bit less than that) is quicker, no?
This car is a proper race car i.e. full tube chassis with carbon fibre body panels and weights about 1125kgs compared with mine at about 1450kgs. With the restrictors the C5R makes about 600BHP which is only 50BHP less than mine but it weighs over 300kgs less.......without the restrictors who knows how fast it would be.
It also has race pedigree which adds to its value.

Mark my words this car will be worth at least 10 x that amount in 20 years time......you only have to look at the value of the Grand Sports to see that.
,
,Vetteheadracer,
What have you done to yours to get 650hp?
I can understand you may have put a lot of time and effort into it, not to mention cash.
Where did you start?
Thanks
Twin Turbo kit and had the engine rebuilt with a Lunati 383 stroker kit with turbo friendly dished pistons. Then you need to upgrade the fuelling to replace the standard fuel rails and also need bigger lines running from the tanks. I also ditched the GM ECU and put in a Motec M800 although a lot of US based tuners seem to be able to get the cars to work with the GM ECU.
If you are a club member then the story of the car was featured in a couple of issues earlier this year. If not p.m. C5RagTop and he will send you the back issues for payment of £3.50 per issue.

Colvette

844 posts

253 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
quotequote all
Acknowledged that this is a racing-car, and has real herritage, but it's only worth £360,000 to a very rich sports collector, really. For that sort of money you're into Koenigsegg territory, and you can also use that on the road!

This kinda thing is worth "what people will pay for it". I'm inclined to disagree that it's worth it - I suspect a stripped out C6 Z06 with a Supercharger (or perhaps the Blue Devil) will perform 90% as well for about 20% of the price. It's only the "history" that raises the value of the car, and as such, 99% of punters probably wouldn't be interested!

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
quotequote all
Colvette said:
Acknowledged that this is a racing-car, and has real herritage, but it's only worth £360,000 to a very rich sports collector, really. For that sort of money you're into Koenigsegg territory, and you can also use that on the road!

This kinda thing is worth "what people will pay for it". I'm inclined to disagree that it's worth it - I suspect a stripped out C6 Z06 with a Supercharger (or perhaps the Blue Devil) will perform 90% as well for about 20% of the price. It's only the "history" that raises the value of the car, and as such, 99% of punters probably wouldn't be interested!
It's €360,000 not £360,000 and to my mind compared with £800,000 for a Ferrari FXX it is an absolulte bargain.

franv8

2,212 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
quotequote all
Colvette said:
Acknowledged that this is a racing-car, and has real herritage, but it's only worth £360,000 to a very rich sports collector, really. For that sort of money you're into Koenigsegg territory, and you can also use that on the road!

This kinda thing is worth "what people will pay for it". I'm inclined to disagree that it's worth it - I suspect a stripped out C6 Z06 with a Supercharger (or perhaps the Blue Devil) will perform 90% as well for about 20% of the price. It's only the "history" that raises the value of the car, and as such, 99% of punters probably wouldn't be interested!
It only needs 1 punter to put the money down, so the 99% not being interested (although I suspect the proportion of that could be split by those not interested at all and those that can't afford to be interested)won't be a problem.

This is a car at the pinnacle of its game in motorsport, and as said before, has the history to go with it. No, it won't work on the road, but for some just having it to display will be enough.

I'd pay to see it up close (note Pay not Buy!!)

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

60 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
quotequote all
franv8 said:
This is a car at the pinnacle of its game in motorsport.....
I guess the price achieved at auction at GFoS my be higher or lower depending how things go at Le mans next weekend!

Mind you, I imagine they could auction a pair of Lewis Hamilton's socks for big money this week.

Godzilla

2,033 posts

255 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
quotequote all
Interesting that an Aston DBR9 was only expected to sell for £125k recently.

And it came with £100k worth of spare parts!

The difference between 1st and 2nd place... wink

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
quotequote all
Godzilla said:
Interesting that an Aston DBR9 was only expected to sell for £125k recently.

And it came with £100k worth of spare parts!

The difference between 1st and 2nd place... wink
hehe

....could also be there were only 11 C5R chassis that raced and this one record 7 class wins during it's career with Corvette Racing including the 2002 Petit Le Mans (which is where I saw it race).

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

265 months

Sunday 17th June 2007
quotequote all
Godzilla said:
Interesting that an Aston DBR9 was only expected to sell for £125k recently.

And it came with £100k worth of spare parts!

The difference between 1st and 2nd place... wink
I'd imagine it is worth a bit more now then wink

Godzilla

2,033 posts

255 months

Sunday 17th June 2007
quotequote all
I said that the windscreen jape would backfire!

franv8

2,212 posts

244 months

Sunday 17th June 2007
quotequote all
Guess we can't win every year then!