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Dean Phillips

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115 posts

232 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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Took the Z06 in today for dyno tuning / custom CAI. Dyno results will be from a Dynojet.
They`re having it for the week, let you all know what happens.....

V7TTE

4,912 posts

240 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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Where did you take it?

godzilla

2,033 posts

255 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
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Yeah, who has the software to do it now? We are still waiting for Efi Live to be released for the LS7.

Make sure they get before and after figures.

Before you spend a fortune on a custom CAI, the US Corvette forums are getting very excited about the power claims for the new K&N intake. They claim 27 rear wheel hp and it only costs $350!

Nobody has reproduced that yet, but it does seem to work better than most.

Corsette

135 posts

241 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
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HP Tuners do Gen IV LS2 and LS7

The problem was the split CPU between the engine and transmission

woof

8,456 posts

283 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
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David - can you post a link please

godzilla said:
Yeah, who has the software to do it now? We are still waiting for Efi Live to be released for the LS7.

Make sure they get before and after figures.

Before you spend a fortune on a custom CAI, the US Corvette forums are getting very excited about the power claims for the new K&N intake. They claim 27 rear wheel hp and it only costs $350!

Nobody has reproduced that yet, but it does seem to work better than most.

godzilla

2,033 posts

255 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
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It's discussed heavily here: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showt

There is a link to K&N in the first post and there are vendors mentioned within the thread.

I'm probably going to stick with the Lingenfelter CAI unless someone proves there is a dramatic difference.

woof

8,456 posts

283 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
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i just checked out the C5 Z06 replacement and it only states an 11 bhp increase

Dean Phillips

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115 posts

232 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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First results, with `NO` tuning on a single roller, Dynojet. Base line pulls only so far, CORRECTED SAE 480 rear wheel HP / 457 rear wheel lbft.
This is with V-power.
So far so good......
Hopefully tuning results tomorrow....

godzilla

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255 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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That sounds very impressive for a CAI only. What was the baseline stock figure on that dyno?

Dean Phillips

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115 posts

232 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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That is the base line pull, no CAI (yet), no tune. All as it came as standard.

godzilla

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255 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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Hmm. Seems a little high then! The engines are all tested to be pretty much spot on 505bhp at the flywheel so 480rwhp would seem to indicate an unfeasibly low 5% transmission loss...

However rolling roads are only really ever useful for comparing mods, so it will be interesting to see what the CAI and tune add.

FYI, on vixpy1's Dyno Dynamics RR, my car measured 409rwhp stock which calculated out at 499bhp. Ericthevetking's was almost exactly the same.

Everyone seems to agree that Dyno Dynamics RRs read lower than Dynojets, but still that's some difference!

Dean Phillips

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115 posts

232 months

Saturday 17th March 2007
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I agree with the differing Dyno results from make to make. It still surprises me though, as you`d think they`d be fairly similar. It`s like weighing 1 kg on one set of scales and it equalling 1.5 kg`s on another!
However, my cars at the top of the power tree, compared with the US Dynojet numbers.
We`ll how it turns out.
The dyno guys are impressed with the whole car so far....

godzilla

2,033 posts

255 months

Sunday 18th March 2007
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Dean, where is your car being dynoed? It might be worthwhile getting my car onto a Dynojet as that is what Lingenfelter use and should allow runs in 4th gear which a Dyno Dynamics can't.

Would like to approximately compare apples to apples!

ringram

14,700 posts

254 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Just a fyi for anyone wondering. efilive has announced E38 PCM support
http://forum.efilive.com/showpost.php
Initial release due 22nd March.
So you DIY guys can get all the info you want from the stock ECM.

vixpy1

42,664 posts

270 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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godzilla said:
Hmm. Seems a little high then! The engines are all tested to be pretty much spot on 505bhp at the flywheel so 480rwhp would seem to indicate an unfeasibly low 5% transmission loss...

However rolling roads are only really ever useful for comparing mods, so it will be interesting to see what the CAI and tune add.

FYI, on vixpy1's Dyno Dynamics RR, my car measured 409rwhp stock which calculated out at 499bhp. Ericthevetking's was almost exactly the same.

Everyone seems to agree that Dyno Dynamics RRs read lower than Dynojets, but still that's some difference!


Too be honest, its about what i'd expect on a Dynojet

godzilla

2,033 posts

255 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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I don't know what the highest I have seen on the US forums is, but it is certainly no more than 450/460rwhp.

vixpy1

42,664 posts

270 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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godzilla said:
I don't know what the highest I have seen on the US forums is, but it is certainly no more than 450/460rwhp.


Actually, thinking again your right, even for a dynojet it sounds a tad high..

ps, ran a supercharged C5 today with 647bhp ... You need a supercharger hehe

Dean Phillips

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115 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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Tuning results Monday. Don`t think there`s a massive gain, but worth while.....
Regards the quoted power outputs from the Dynojet:
My experience of the twin roller type dyno`s have alway`s been less than good. The car`s and trucks have always climbed out, wheel spun, burn`t rubber and shut the dyno`s down because of over speeding the dyno. It`s also an unnatural twin contact patch on the tyre`s, creating double the drag. The dyno shop`s (in my experience) could never put the required load on the car.
Now with the single roller Dynojet:
Park it, strap it, put as much load on as you want(in forth gear) and clean pulls every time.
My local tuning shop have just had a 1000hp drag Supra in. Dyno`d underload, no problems.
This is MY personal experience of VARIOUS dyno tuning.
Anyway, the sound of the Z06 on the Dyno is worth it, what ever happens!