Rear fog lights for C5Z06

Rear fog lights for C5Z06

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owenemyr

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287 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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My Z06 has come with a stainless steel/corvette logo billet inbetween the tailpipes, and I would rather like to keep that rear view and not spoil it with the single fog light as most SVA mods. The current C6 (whether US or Euro-spec) have "fog" within the existing outer R roundels, and could theoretically be used (at a price).
Does anyone know of another method using the existing C5 Z06 rear lights, perhaps with led's etc, and would satisfy the SVA. I am aware of a commercial SVA mod, but it comes at a significant price.
Yes, I know that I could rig up the rear fog such that it could be removed, and re-fitted for the MOT

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

259 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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My C5 Z06 also came with the exhaust plate but I am going to mount the foglight centrally anyway. You could use one of the reversing lights next to the number plate as long as it is the passenger side one. I believe some people have done this but you would need to check with the www.vosa.gov.uk site to see what the specifications say about visibility particularly regarding angles and height.

Vet Guru

2,182 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Try Ian Goss Services for SVA work on 0208 391 9090

V7TTE

4,904 posts

240 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Problem you have is that fag lamps must be "E" marked. I don't think you can rely on converting one of the reversing lamps, as it wont have the appropriate marking. Sad but true. Best solution is to swallow your pride for the SVA test, then do your mods afterwards, as an MOT won't be so picky...

Vet Guru

2,182 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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I think you find a way around it? It may depand on who does the SVA

Dee Gee

285 posts

248 months

Friday 22nd December 2006
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I've thought a lot about this one. I bit the bullet and fitted the square fog between the tails to pass SVA. The fixing is unobtrusive so you can take it off at any time or even leave it there to pop the light back on for MOT. Providing you leave enough spare wire you can play the tunes later.

I can only see 2 other options. Fit the light in the offside housing for either the reversing light cluster or the tail lights or go for strip LEDs in the lower vents.

For the lights option. If you fitted red over clears in one of the housings you could fit a red bulb into the socket and wire up the fog switch to that. This should be fine as the red/clear units are GM spec and E Marked. The other option may be to reinstall the standard US red tail light with a higher wattage (21w) bulb. Not sure how stock red inners would look with red/amber outers though. The reversing light option is easy but I'm not sure if the housing is E Marked. They seem to turn a blind eye to it for SVA purposes as a reversing light. Not sure how they'd view it if it was in use as a fog. The fog light regs are specific as needing an E marked housing.

For the lower vent option the lights need to be 250mm above ground height. The upper slot just complies with that. Even recessed I think it should satisfy the angles of visibility. I've found some lights that may fit and I'll probably order them. With LEDs, the drain should be such that I could get away with a pair without other relays etc. I'd need to look at the fittings to see how I'd attach the lights behind the rear bumper.

All that said, I still think that SVA has enough pitfalls as it is. best get that sorted and mod later IMHO.

V10 BAT

1,718 posts

240 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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I RECKON YOU COULD SAY I WENT THE LED ROUTE.....I COULD`NT STOP AT JUST THE FOG LIGHTS THOUGH.FOG LIGHTS IN REVS LIGHTS SMALL
BULBS FOR REVS IN SAME LAMPS.WENT STRAIGHT THROUGH MOT.


Dee Gee

285 posts

248 months

Friday 29th December 2006
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I quizzed my MOT man on this just yesterday. He was quite happy with any of the solutions I mentioned. I suggested LED strip lights in the lower vents, a fog in one of the red housings over the amber turn signal or a refit of the stock red lens with a 21w higher wattage bulb. No problem with any of those.

V7TTE

4,904 posts

240 months

Friday 29th December 2006
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V10 BAT said:
I RECKON YOU COULD SAY I WENT THE LED ROUTE...


Where did you get these light clusters? did you make them yourself? I've never seen anything like them...? confused

V10 BAT

1,718 posts

240 months

Saturday 30th December 2006
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V7TTE said:
V10 BAT said:
I RECKON YOU COULD SAY I WENT THE LED ROUTE...


Where did you get these light clusters? did you make them yourself? I've never seen anything like them...? confused

v7tte i made them .used lights i got in florida pepboys.there for a honda accord 1995/96 ,come in pairs.each of the clusters has 3 lights
1 stacked on the other etc.had to stick the leds in with silicon to get the right angle for the bulb.this was the type of lamps i was after nothing like this available.so gave it ago.they do have a bezzel type surround which is from ecklers but with the two middle bars cut out.the original lamps i could put back in anytime,so nothing done to drastic.they were a pain to make but i like em.hope you bump into my car in the new year you can judge for yourself. later dave.

owenemyr

Original Poster:

287 posts

266 months

Saturday 30th December 2006
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Dee Gee said:
I quizzed my MOT man on this just yesterday. He was quite happy with any of the solutions I mentioned. I suggested LED strip lights in the lower vents, a fog in one of the red housings over the amber turn signal or a refit of the stock red lens with a 21w higher wattage bulb. No problem with any of those.

This may well satisfy the MOT requirements, but would it satisfy the SVA??

Go55 USA

206 posts

224 months

Saturday 30th December 2006
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owenemyr said:
Dee Gee said:
I quizzed my MOT man on this just yesterday. He was quite happy with any of the solutions I mentioned. I suggested LED strip lights in the lower vents, a fog in one of the red housings over the amber turn signal or a refit of the stock red lens with a 21w higher wattage bulb. No problem with any of those.

This may well satisfy the MOT requirements, but would it satisfy the SVA??





This would be fine for a Lenient MOT tester,but as for SVA, there looking for E marks or the intensity of the lamp lense not just putting a 21w bulb behind a side lamp for example !

c5ragtop

1,610 posts

254 months

Saturday 30th December 2006
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V7TTE said:

Where did you get these light clusters? did you make them yourself? I've never seen anything like them...? confused


Oh, oh - looks like Pete's bored after Christmas.

Dave - can you post a pic without your car in the way - it's blocking the view of the posters at the end of your garage.



Edited by c5ragtop on Saturday 30th December 14:01

V7TTE

4,904 posts

240 months

Saturday 30th December 2006
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c5ragtop said:

Dave - can you post a pic without your car in the way - it's blocking the view of the posters at the end of your garage.


...and I'm the one who's bored!

Seriously, I have been wondering about the possibility of custom-building LED clusters. One day maybe...

Dee Gee

285 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th December 2006
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owenemyr said:
Dee Gee said:
I quizzed my MOT man on this just yesterday. He was quite happy with any of the solutions I mentioned. I suggested LED strip lights in the lower vents, a fog in one of the red housings over the amber turn signal or a refit of the stock red lens with a 21w higher wattage bulb. No problem with any of those.

This may well satisfy the MOT requirements, but would it satisfy the SVA??


No it wouldn't

I made sure I used a fully compliant fit for the test. MOT is more lenient.


Edited by Dee Gee on Saturday 30th December 18:30

V10 BAT

1,718 posts

240 months

Sunday 31st December 2006
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c5ragtop said:
V7TTE said:

Where did you get these light clusters? did you make them yourself? I've never seen anything like them...? confused


Oh, oh - looks like Pete's bored after Christmas.

Dave - can you post a pic without your car in the way - it's blocking the view of the posters at the end of your garage.

RICH MAY HAVE GONE TO FAR WITH THE ZOOM.BUT THEN YOU DID`NT WANT TO SEE ***S DID YOU
BACK ON SUBJECT DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO FOR SVA/MOT THEN GET HER HOW YOU WANT.

Edited by c5ragtop on Saturday 30th December 14:01

UK_WS6

3,336 posts

210 months

Saturday 28th April 2007
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V7TTE said:
Problem you have is that fag lamps must be "E" marked. I don't think you can rely on converting one of the reversing lamps, as it wont have the appropriate marking. Sad but true. Best solution is to swallow your pride for the SVA test, then do your mods afterwards, as an MOT won't be so picky...


VOSA are picky.

Fog lights are higher reflectance internal reflectors.
marked also with " F "