BIG BROTHER LOOMS EVEN LARGER !!!
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This topic is going to affect every one of us in one way or another, and most of us directly, so please take the time to read it and go online to sign the petition.
The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.
The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver.
A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can expect a NIP ( Notice of Intended Prosecution) with your monthly bill.
If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the cardriver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/
Please also send this to everyone in your address book who might care.
The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.
The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver.
A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can expect a NIP ( Notice of Intended Prosecution) with your monthly bill.
If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the cardriver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/
Please also send this to everyone in your address book who might care.
You can bet your life the swine have already decided. I'm sure they are already establishing the necessary infrastructure. The idea of scrapping all the scameras and replacing them with something that covers everywhere all the time must have them rubbing their dirty criminal paws with glee. Even if you stick to the limit, they still get to rob you blind, and even have the barefaced audacity to suggest it is somehow for our own good. Petitions are lip-service - the only form of protest likely to influence a "democratic" administration is civil unrest. The one thing they cant deal with. Remember the poll tax? I hope everyone who voted for Fuhrer bliar and his ragtag band of villains feels proud !
Edited by v8d on Saturday 16th December 17:38
I'm sure they will have also, in parallel, been designing a combination of a camera and a tracker aerial, that snaps any evil car driver without one. Probably.
Or maybe it'll launch heat seeking missiles - despite being completely illegal like the NIP vs PACE debate it can be happily steamrollered over...
Or maybe it'll launch heat seeking missiles - despite being completely illegal like the NIP vs PACE debate it can be happily steamrollered over...
malc350 said:
barreti said:
What would stop you disconnecting the tracker and attaching it to a battery in the garage and running without it?
Or accidentally running over it.....
I assume it will be attached to the ignition circuit and therefore if the car doesn't find it the car won't start
Nothing to say you can't wrap the thing in a lead sheet so that it doesn't connect to the satellite though
They tried these things on trucks in Germany. The drivers defeated them by putting a bag of sarnies wrapped in foil over the dash unit!!
That sent the pillocks who came up with it back to the drawing board ! Doubt if our lot will be that daft. As our sceptred isle fills up with costly scroungers,(mainly NL-voters!) and all the productive people emigrate to more civilised countries, Theyve gotta get their cash from somewhere.
That sent the pillocks who came up with it back to the drawing board ! Doubt if our lot will be that daft. As our sceptred isle fills up with costly scroungers,(mainly NL-voters!) and all the productive people emigrate to more civilised countries, Theyve gotta get their cash from somewhere.
Is this government on drugs? Can anyone think of any more ridiculous ways to generate revenue? Someone told me the other day that where he lives (Derbyshire) you have to put your wheelie bin out before 7pm (prior to colection) and take it in by a certain time the next day or face a £100 fine...
What next: " you have to cross the road in no less than 11 steps and no more than 12 or you have to pay a fine"?
This government are taking all the fun out of living.
Are you listening Mr Blair? Or have you just gone on holiday again by private 'plane using rather more fuel than quite a few Corvettes / 4x4s / whatever...
P.S. Nige, I know what I'll say to anyone trying to wire anything into my car's ignition...
What next: " you have to cross the road in no less than 11 steps and no more than 12 or you have to pay a fine"?
This government are taking all the fun out of living.
Are you listening Mr Blair? Or have you just gone on holiday again by private 'plane using rather more fuel than quite a few Corvettes / 4x4s / whatever...
P.S. Nige, I know what I'll say to anyone trying to wire anything into my car's ignition...
malc350 said:
What next: "
Its spreading all through society
The minute something becomes popular and in demand certain sections of mankind F**k it up.
Thats why i now watch non league football,i have no restrictions like you get at league level.
Next step is to sell the vette and buy a pair of roller skates.
WHY O WHY do we put up with it.
Check this out.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footb
They keep trying to soften us up but it will never work. On morning TV this morning, they had an article about Xmas travel where some family did an additional 1700 miles over Xmas picking up kids from uni and relations from other parts of the country and saying "WHEN road pricing comes in....blah blah". They seem to forget that over the Xmas period, far more people won't use thir cars half as much.
What a bunch of cox.
What a bunch of cox.
I keep harping on about this but the Government are monumentally mis-guided on this issue. They already have a perfectly good and completely fair method of raising taxes based on the amount of fuel you use......it is called Fuel Excise Duty i.e. the tax we all pay every time we put petrol / diesel in our vehicles.
They should stop with all this bollox about Chelsea tractors etc. and concentrate on the things we want them to do like running schools and hospitals.
The Governemt should scrap car tax and put 7.5p a litre on fuel.
This would have a number of advantages:
1. All those who currently "avoid" paying car tax would be have to pay the tax every time they bought fuel.
2. Those with more than one vehicle would not be unfairly penalised.
3. Those who drive the most miles or run the most fuel inefficient vehicles (therefore the most environmentally damaging) would pay the most tax.
They should stop with all this bollox about Chelsea tractors etc. and concentrate on the things we want them to do like running schools and hospitals.
The Governemt should scrap car tax and put 7.5p a litre on fuel.
This would have a number of advantages:
1. All those who currently "avoid" paying car tax would be have to pay the tax every time they bought fuel.
2. Those with more than one vehicle would not be unfairly penalised.
3. Those who drive the most miles or run the most fuel inefficient vehicles (therefore the most environmentally damaging) would pay the most tax.
Well said Nigel. Makes perfect sense, which is most likely why the government won't consider that as an option. I believe this type of proposition has far more sinister overtones which is that of being able to control the masses. This they will do by knowing where you are, who you are with and what you are doing 24/7. Think of the opportunities that forcing every household to go digital will have on the potential ability to keep tabs on us in our own home's. An Englishman's home is said to be his castle, but we all know what Cromwell did to castle's.
Personally i think its about time the silent masses stood up and made out views both known and acted upon. Up the revolution brothers! Those whose job it is to monitor sites for subversive activity will be around to cart me off shortly I expect.
Phil
Personally i think its about time the silent masses stood up and made out views both known and acted upon. Up the revolution brothers! Those whose job it is to monitor sites for subversive activity will be around to cart me off shortly I expect.
Phil
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