Buying a C6 Z06 help
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Firstly not having been on the Corvette forum before..... Hi
By way of background I have been looking at having an LS3 powered TVR (Griff, Tamora or Tuscan) built. Having spoken with a lot of companies, driven the cars and talked to people who have done this I now have all the data and importantly costs. Realization why not just buy a C6 Z06.......it will deliver everything I am looking for and be cheaper.
So......I am now going to look for a good C6 Z06 example, drive a couple and make my mind up.
Not knowing that much about the Corvette there are three up for sale at the moment. Two at Bauer Millet (Black and Red) and one on the for sale section, a Lingenfelter. What is the view on these cars and are they known? Have they been up for long?
Also what is the view on depreciation given the C7 is imminent?
All help appreciated in knowing what to look for and avoid.
By way of background I have been looking at having an LS3 powered TVR (Griff, Tamora or Tuscan) built. Having spoken with a lot of companies, driven the cars and talked to people who have done this I now have all the data and importantly costs. Realization why not just buy a C6 Z06.......it will deliver everything I am looking for and be cheaper.
So......I am now going to look for a good C6 Z06 example, drive a couple and make my mind up.
Not knowing that much about the Corvette there are three up for sale at the moment. Two at Bauer Millet (Black and Red) and one on the for sale section, a Lingenfelter. What is the view on these cars and are they known? Have they been up for long?
Also what is the view on depreciation given the C7 is imminent?
All help appreciated in knowing what to look for and avoid.
No doubt the owners of C6 Z06's will respond to this. Would love a Z06 myself (Fifth Gears "Performance Car of the Year" a few years back). Is there another fabulous looking 200mph car available at these prices with such reasonable running costs? Bauer-Millett are the UKs only new Corvette GM authorised dealer. Two considerations are 1) Cars are either US imports with lights fixed for the UK, or official factory built Euro spec cars (Euro spec cars are easily identifiable by the front headlight washers). 2) You need a "widish" garage. A C6 Z06 will not fit in a standard UK single width garage. It will go in, but you will probably not be able to get out.
Below is an article on buying Used C6s from Autocar this year, heavily contributed to by Mitch the MD at Bauer-Millett:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-...
Lingenfelter? You may have seen this?
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2050...
Tiff likes them too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L729eQpudKk
Below is an article on buying Used C6s from Autocar this year, heavily contributed to by Mitch the MD at Bauer-Millett:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-...
Lingenfelter? You may have seen this?
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2050...
Tiff likes them too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L729eQpudKk
Edited by Silver C6 on Saturday 29th December 14:20
The two at Bauers haven't been up for long, the lingenfelter one comes and goes on the classifieds every few months, whether it changes hands or not I don't know.
My stock Z06 scares the living sh*t out of me, I wouldn't want to make it any faster!
Of course when any new model comes out the old one takes a hit, but the 'quicker' version of the C7 will be a while.
My stock Z06 scares the living sh*t out of me, I wouldn't want to make it any faster!
Of course when any new model comes out the old one takes a hit, but the 'quicker' version of the C7 will be a while.
Take a look on corvetteforum.com and also google c6 z06 model year changes as an idea of what changes year to year. 2008 was a key model year for me.
Although the Z06 isn't much different in width to some other cars including my ZR1, unlike he ZR1 that feels small when driving, the Z06 does feel quite wide when driving. Some find that an issue
US imports are cheaper to tax.
Although the Z06 isn't much different in width to some other cars including my ZR1, unlike he ZR1 that feels small when driving, the Z06 does feel quite wide when driving. Some find that an issue
US imports are cheaper to tax.
With regards the 2007/2008 model year thing, I have a 2007, my mate has a 2008, I drive both and dont really notice the difference, The center console is nicer in the 2008, so I bought one and changed it myself in < 10 mins.
He swears Yellow is faster than white, I disagree.
He swears Yellow is faster than white, I disagree.
Edited by Adeyb on Saturday 29th December 15:11
The red one at Baur Millett used to belong to me. Had 1 previous owner, when I chopped it in it was in very good condition, it needed a set off rear pads and a brake disc on the rear. other than that it was fine. It is quit high mileage, but most was done touring Europe so I wouldn't let that bother you.. I think they got it off me in early August. Rear tyres near as damn it new. Fronts 80% new. Good car. Not worth £36k though...
If I think of anything else I will post.
If I think of anything else I will post.
Only other things I can add are:
1) If you do look at some cars (based on my experience of buying of buying a "standard" C6 earlier in the year) make sure to check the front lights are UK spec (point the right way/will pass the MOT). Having said that, a car with US lights (or in my case Euro mainland lights) might still pass the MOT, as according to my MOT man in Feb, a "kickback" to the left is no longer part of the MOT test.
2) As you might of seen, UK spec cars were sold by Stratstones 2005 until late 2008/early 2009(?). These should have a Certificate of Conformity (CoC), which makes it easier/possible to sell the car in mainland Europe. Some Stratstone buyers didn't get one, but are available from Bauer-Millett I understand. An ex-Stratstones guy on here also said that some cars may have gone out to customers with the wrong (still Euro spec) lights on them.
1) If you do look at some cars (based on my experience of buying of buying a "standard" C6 earlier in the year) make sure to check the front lights are UK spec (point the right way/will pass the MOT). Having said that, a car with US lights (or in my case Euro mainland lights) might still pass the MOT, as according to my MOT man in Feb, a "kickback" to the left is no longer part of the MOT test.
2) As you might of seen, UK spec cars were sold by Stratstones 2005 until late 2008/early 2009(?). These should have a Certificate of Conformity (CoC), which makes it easier/possible to sell the car in mainland Europe. Some Stratstone buyers didn't get one, but are available from Bauer-Millett I understand. An ex-Stratstones guy on here also said that some cars may have gone out to customers with the wrong (still Euro spec) lights on them.
Edited by Silver C6 on Saturday 29th December 17:14
Thanks for the help and links.
What is the view on the Lingenfelter? Looks like a lot of car for the money.
My concerns would be:
Modified cars are never easy to move on. I had an R35 GTR with a stage two modification and it was a pig to part ex.
If the Z06 has enough manageable power why modify for anything other than dyno bragging. If you can’t drive it because it’s twitchy or unstable and feels like it will send you into a ditch with the slightest road imperfection it’s pointless. On the other hand if the power is usable and does not start a chain reaction of further mods then why not?
Also the new owner has only had the car for less than a year and it’s been for sale before with no takers so it does concern me. However I can’t judge until I have seen it.
The single garage bit is a concern. Rather than keep it in storage away from the house, which is inconvenient, it will live in a single garage. The GTR spent time in a single garage and is only an inch narrower than the Z06…..getting out however was not pretty.
What is the view on the Lingenfelter? Looks like a lot of car for the money.
My concerns would be:
Modified cars are never easy to move on. I had an R35 GTR with a stage two modification and it was a pig to part ex.
If the Z06 has enough manageable power why modify for anything other than dyno bragging. If you can’t drive it because it’s twitchy or unstable and feels like it will send you into a ditch with the slightest road imperfection it’s pointless. On the other hand if the power is usable and does not start a chain reaction of further mods then why not?
Also the new owner has only had the car for less than a year and it’s been for sale before with no takers so it does concern me. However I can’t judge until I have seen it.
The single garage bit is a concern. Rather than keep it in storage away from the house, which is inconvenient, it will live in a single garage. The GTR spent time in a single garage and is only an inch narrower than the Z06…..getting out however was not pretty.
Adeyb said:
Which one did you get?
The 6000 mile black 2008 although it's now done over 16,000 mile. LolWith regard to the 'Lingenfelter' car. Dont believe it is a Lingenfelter Corvette. A Lingenfelter Corvette is a Vette that comes out of their Workshop. This is a normal corvette with a couple of aftermarket Lingenfelter parts added. That's a whole different ball game
Fwiw I believe David still has the cam and some bits in his garage
Edited by Gixer on Saturday 29th December 17:41
Gixer said:
With regard to the 'Lingenfelter' car. Dont believe it is a Lingenfelter Corvette. A Lingenfelter Corvette is a Vette that comes out of their Workshop. This is a normal corvette with a couple of aftermarket Lingenfelter parts added. That's a whole different ball game
Sorry, I think that's a little unfair. The car is a Z06 with a Lingenfelter 616 engine package fitted by Ian Goss. This amounts to a bit more than a 'couple of aftermarket Lingenfelter parts'. Also, if the same parts been fitted in Lingenfelter's workshop, would that make it a 'Lingenfelter Z06'? The car is advertised correctly, but I'm curious as to the distinction being made.Ps. The car has not been changing hands over the couple of months I've been marketing it. I'm simply aware it's the 'wrong time of year' to sell and just hit renew on the ad as and when I remember to! It's a very special car looking for a buyer who wants a fire breathing monster
Not in a hurry to sell; would rather the car goto the right buyer.ian_uk1975 said:
Sorry, I think that's a little unfair. The car is a Z06 with a Lingenfelter 616 engine package fitted by Ian Goss. This amounts to a bit more than a 'couple of aftermarket Lingenfelter parts'. Also, if the same parts been fitted in Lingenfelter's workshop, would that make it a 'Lingenfelter Z06'? The car is advertised correctly, but I'm curious as to the distinction being made.
Ps. The car has not been changing hands over the couple of months I've been marketing it. I'm simply aware it's the 'wrong time of year' to sell and just hit renew on the ad as and when I remember to! It's a very special car looking for a buyer who wants a fire breathing monster Not in a hurry to sell; would rather the car goto the right buyer.
Hi Ian, you were very straight with me on the phone so thanks for that. Will come and take a look once the holiday is over. Ps. The car has not been changing hands over the couple of months I've been marketing it. I'm simply aware it's the 'wrong time of year' to sell and just hit renew on the ad as and when I remember to! It's a very special car looking for a buyer who wants a fire breathing monster
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