Surrey region meet tonight 9th Aug at Silvermere golf club
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As I have just found out last night the Surrey region meet is on tonight. And as alot of us are no longer getting e-mails the directions are below.
Loads of parking and we also get our own area in the bar.
Silvermere is one of the most easily accessible golf centres in the South East of England positioned near the the A3 and M25.
From the M25
•Leave the M25 at junction 10 (signpost to London (SW). Kingston, Guildford A3) and join the A3 towards London and Kingston
•Leave the A3 at the Painshill Junction and join the A245 towards Byfleet
•Turn left onto the Redhill Road after 1/2 a mile
•Silvermere is located on the left hand side
From London / A3 Southbound
•Leave the A3 at the Painshill Interchange and join the A245 towards Byfleet
•See from the M25 point 3
Loads of parking and we also get our own area in the bar.
Silvermere is one of the most easily accessible golf centres in the South East of England positioned near the the A3 and M25.
From the M25
•Leave the M25 at junction 10 (signpost to London (SW). Kingston, Guildford A3) and join the A3 towards London and Kingston
•Leave the A3 at the Painshill Junction and join the A245 towards Byfleet
•Turn left onto the Redhill Road after 1/2 a mile
•Silvermere is located on the left hand side
From London / A3 Southbound
•Leave the A3 at the Painshill Interchange and join the A245 towards Byfleet
•See from the M25 point 3
Vet Guru said:
As I have just found out last night the Surrey region meet is on tonight. And as alot of us are no longer getting e-mails the directions are below.
Loads of parking and we also get our own area in the bar.
As the membership secretary of the CCCUK one of my roles is to regularly send out a list of members to all reps.Loads of parking and we also get our own area in the bar.
This list comprises of all paid up members & the ones who have yet to renew in that year.
This list is then used buy the reps. to contact all paid up members to notify them of any local events / meetings.
You have not been a member for two years & therefore would not get any notification of events & are also not really in a position to have a dig at the reps themselves.
As you used to be a rep, you should know it is a thankless task not only organising meetings & trying to get people to attend but also trying to ensure that the meetings are a benefit to club members as part of their yearly fee.
If all our members decided they don't need to pay their membership but still expect full benefits there would be no club.
Kevv Wright
Chevykevv said:
As the membership secretary of the CCCUK one of my roles is to regularly send out a list of members to all reps.
This list comprises of all paid up members & the ones who have yet to renew in that year.
This list is then used buy the reps. to contact all paid up members to notify them of any local events / meetings.
You have not been a member for two years & therefore would not get any notification of events & are also not really in a position to have a dig at the reps themselves.
As you used to be a rep, you should know it is a thankless task not only organising meetings & trying to get people to attend but also trying to ensure that the meetings are a benefit to club members as part of their yearly fee.
If all our members decided they don't need to pay their membership but still expect full benefits there would be no club.
Kevv Wright
Ok here we go....This list comprises of all paid up members & the ones who have yet to renew in that year.
This list is then used buy the reps. to contact all paid up members to notify them of any local events / meetings.
You have not been a member for two years & therefore would not get any notification of events & are also not really in a position to have a dig at the reps themselves.
As you used to be a rep, you should know it is a thankless task not only organising meetings & trying to get people to attend but also trying to ensure that the meetings are a benefit to club members as part of their yearly fee.
If all our members decided they don't need to pay their membership but still expect full benefits there would be no club.
Kevv Wright
Funny you talk about Membership at Surrey region as I know of at least 10 regular (Non CCCUK Members) who are always at the Surrey meets. And Have never joined up but have got a Corvette.
My view when I was at the helm along with my fellow Rep Tekwiz everyone is welcome regardless of if you are a paying member to the CCCUK or not. We have had guys who are Viper/Mustang owners come down as everyone is part of the Corvette club and always welcome. And funny when we did this we always had a huge turnout.
I am confused as a meeting at a Pub or golf club is not a CCCUK benefit? I have never been asked to show a up to date Membership card. What I do have is a passion for Corvettes and after owning five of them a magazine and window sticker is not going to make any more of a Vettehead!
My view not to join the CCCUK was my choice of it was something I did not need. And If everyone else felt like me the Corvette world in the UK would not fall apart but you would infact be a load of owners meeting Pubs or Car shows and having chat about their cars.
I am all for the Club and have done my bit in the past but it's one thing I don't need to join up to. Any funny how nobody has ever contacted myself & asked to rejoin, Maybe that's because I was taken off the MEMBERS E-MAIL list.
If you looked at my post it was not having a moan at the reps but what can be done to get the more owners to turn up at the Surrey meetings.
I still unsure of what benefits as a non member I have used?? Maybe sitting in the same pub as paid up members? And yes I did pay more money when I went to the Nationals as a non member.
I may start my own Corvette club with funny hand shakes and a fezz hat and call my self the Grand poobar like Fred flintstone did!!
So if someone loves a football team and has never been to a live match are they any less a fan?
What I would want to know is why members have not rejoined? Maybe you can ask if you still had the e-mail address of them!
Chevykevv said:
You have not been a member for two years & therefore would not get any notification of events & are also not really in a position to have a dig at the reps themselves.
If all our members decided they don't need to pay their membership but still expect full benefits there would be no club.
Kevv Wright
Kevv, I have to say that I am somewhat surprised that you have put into print confidential information about membership status of a past member? As a paid up member of CCCUK (or even if I wasn't) I would not be happy if private and personal information about my membership status was made public, especially in the tone put forward by yourself.If all our members decided they don't need to pay their membership but still expect full benefits there would be no club.
Kevv Wright
With regards to past members being excluded from mail lists, just because they have not paid their fees, (could be financial, personal, forgot to renew etc), I think that at the very least, an email informing past and present members should continue, paid up or not.
Why? By stopping communication in this way you are practically cutting your nose off. By still communicating with non-paid members you will have far more of a chance to recruit them back in the fold than simply barring them from a simple reminder about a date the club meets and where.
It's a fine line I agree but with all the changes and different venues, nights in the week that Surrey have had recently, I personally feel an email to the entire list (purely for club night where and when) really isn't too taxing.
You could even restrict the email to say twice a year, March and September just to keep the relationship going. Just a thought.....
I think the point we are missing is not that Kevv should stand down for giving telling everyone private information about ex members, But how it's such a shame lots of Corvette owners don't know what is going on in the Surrey region from one month to the next. This not about the CCCUK not about the reps or who's on what forum. The whole point is trying to get more Corvette owners back to the monthly Surrey meet ing. May be Kev could e-mail all the non paying members? Now that would be a far better use of his time! Rather than naming and Shameing who's has paid up.
AGM is soon. All reps and committee members have to stand down anyway. No doubt many will put themselves forward again because too many people are all too happy to moan about this that and everything else but never bother getting off their arse and turning up at the AGM to do anything about it.
As for you not receiving emails Rob that's not exactly true is it? You live in Kent so would come under Kent region. When I look at the North Weald thread I see you have copied and pasted an email from Gary Garwood (Kent rep) with meeting times for a cruise up their. So you must be on his list. But why are you participating in club arranged cruises without being a member?
It's not down to Kevv what emails are sent to whom. If you are not getting emails from the Surrey reps that's down to them not Kevv.
I agree that Surrey region need to sort their meeting place and time. I'm sure they will once a permanent venue and suitable time is sorted.
As for fewer members at Surrey. Well as someone that for years attended the Surrey region meet every month without fail for years. We rarely go for a number of reasons-
Work, my oncall rota has changed and is also busier
Faces, many people I looked forward to seeing also stopped going some due to work, others because they moved away and some just moved on
The motorways. I could do the meet to home in half hour at midnight. Useful when Kerensa has to get up for work at five. Then it appeared to be policy to shut all our Motorways down to one lane for long stretches at night. That and the closure of junctions as well. I got fed up of sitting in traffic and driving long ways home because the M20 and M26 junctions would be closed.
Then of course there's Facebook etc so members/owners keep in contact without as much need to meet at a pub
You talk about the 'Golden age of Surrey club' as being when you and Tekwiz were at the helm but sorry, I clearly remember that being when Colin and Richard were running things. No offense intended to either of you.
I sat in on the last committee meeting. 'The club needs members or their won't be a club' has never been so true. As you get the moddest club fee back in insurance discount, breakdown discount and other discounts I really can't get my head around why someone wouldn't be a member. Let alone moan they are not getting member benefits when they are not.
Kevv did nothing wrong, why would he need to step down? He just said you wasn't a member. If you posted on CCCUK it would say non-member next to your name anyway.
As for you not receiving emails Rob that's not exactly true is it? You live in Kent so would come under Kent region. When I look at the North Weald thread I see you have copied and pasted an email from Gary Garwood (Kent rep) with meeting times for a cruise up their. So you must be on his list. But why are you participating in club arranged cruises without being a member?
It's not down to Kevv what emails are sent to whom. If you are not getting emails from the Surrey reps that's down to them not Kevv.
I agree that Surrey region need to sort their meeting place and time. I'm sure they will once a permanent venue and suitable time is sorted.
As for fewer members at Surrey. Well as someone that for years attended the Surrey region meet every month without fail for years. We rarely go for a number of reasons-
Work, my oncall rota has changed and is also busier
Faces, many people I looked forward to seeing also stopped going some due to work, others because they moved away and some just moved on
The motorways. I could do the meet to home in half hour at midnight. Useful when Kerensa has to get up for work at five. Then it appeared to be policy to shut all our Motorways down to one lane for long stretches at night. That and the closure of junctions as well. I got fed up of sitting in traffic and driving long ways home because the M20 and M26 junctions would be closed.
Then of course there's Facebook etc so members/owners keep in contact without as much need to meet at a pub
You talk about the 'Golden age of Surrey club' as being when you and Tekwiz were at the helm but sorry, I clearly remember that being when Colin and Richard were running things. No offense intended to either of you.
I sat in on the last committee meeting. 'The club needs members or their won't be a club' has never been so true. As you get the moddest club fee back in insurance discount, breakdown discount and other discounts I really can't get my head around why someone wouldn't be a member. Let alone moan they are not getting member benefits when they are not.
Kevv did nothing wrong, why would he need to step down? He just said you wasn't a member. If you posted on CCCUK it would say non-member next to your name anyway.
G4HKS said:
Kevv, I have to say that I am somewhat surprised that you have put into print confidential information about membership status of a past member? As a paid up member of CCCUK (or even if I wasn't) I would not be happy if private and personal information about my membership status was made public, especially in the tone put forward by yourself.
With regards to past members being excluded from mail lists, just because they have not paid their fees, (could be financial, personal, forgot to renew etc), I think that at the very least, an email informing past and present members should continue, paid up or not.
Why? By stopping communication in this way you are practically cutting your nose off. By still communicating with non-paid members you will have far more of a chance to recruit them back in the fold than simply barring them from a simple reminder about a date the club meets and where.
It's a fine line I agree but with all the changes and different venues, nights in the week that Surrey have had recently, I personally feel an email to the entire list (purely for club night where and when) really isn't too taxing.
You could even restrict the email to say twice a year, March and September just to keep the relationship going. Just a thought.....
As far as i'm concerned I haven't divulged any confidential information, I haven't even made reference to his name.With regards to past members being excluded from mail lists, just because they have not paid their fees, (could be financial, personal, forgot to renew etc), I think that at the very least, an email informing past and present members should continue, paid up or not.
Why? By stopping communication in this way you are practically cutting your nose off. By still communicating with non-paid members you will have far more of a chance to recruit them back in the fold than simply barring them from a simple reminder about a date the club meets and where.
It's a fine line I agree but with all the changes and different venues, nights in the week that Surrey have had recently, I personally feel an email to the entire list (purely for club night where and when) really isn't too taxing.
You could even restrict the email to say twice a year, March and September just to keep the relationship going. Just a thought.....
I have to abide by the data protection act as part of my job with the MOD (am I alowed to tell you I work for the MOD?) as well as it being in the membership secretary rules so I do know my way around it.
As for the emails, all reps send emails to all present members & all non renewing members for the current year, after 12 Months if they haven't renewed then we assume they are not interested in being part of the club anymore.
Do you suggest that I pass on details to the reps of all 4500 people who have ever been members at some point? where do we draw the line for cut off?
Before I became membership secretary only the current members details were passed on so I have included some none members but obviously that's not enough.
I am standing down this year due to work commitments, & have mostly enjoyed being in the role.
One of the parts I haven't enjoyed is chasing people who are more than happy to use the club discounts & turn up at club events without parting with the yearly fee of £35 which to be honest in this day & age is a Bl@@dy bargain, it's not even a 1/3 of a tank of fuel for a Vette.
One thing does bug me is the way people are complaining about not being on any mailing list on a forum obviously the said reps do not read, try PHONING THEM or posting on the CCCUK site if you're really upset by it, or come along to the AGM & let your feeling out as that's what it's for.
When I stand down I will be paying my renewal as I know how hard the committee & reps work & how much of their personal time is put into making sure we have one of the best car clubs in the UK.
Yeah. This is bulls
t. I'm with Kevv and anyone else that has donated their time and efforts to running the CCCUK.
I think it is perfectly reasonable not to expect to get the emails from the reps about monthly meets, unless you are a paid up member. How else would the club keep track of all those email addresses?
To be honest, if you still have connections to the club and people that attend your montly meet, I see no reason why you can't still get second hand info on the time/place of meet and still be just as welcome as any other Corvette or other interesting vehicle enthusiast.
t. I'm with Kevv and anyone else that has donated their time and efforts to running the CCCUK.I think it is perfectly reasonable not to expect to get the emails from the reps about monthly meets, unless you are a paid up member. How else would the club keep track of all those email addresses?
To be honest, if you still have connections to the club and people that attend your montly meet, I see no reason why you can't still get second hand info on the time/place of meet and still be just as welcome as any other Corvette or other interesting vehicle enthusiast.
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