Origin Blue i 'VS' Morpheous geodsey
Discussion
I just clicked on a small banner ad on another forum which was advertising a device called an 'Origin Blue i'. It seems to work in a similar way to the morpheous.
From what I gather from the advert, it has won several awards for being the best. I've never heard of it before.
Does anyone know anything about it (the ad was very vague and offered no comparison against the geodsey)??
From what I gather from the advert, it has won several awards for being the best. I've never heard of it before.
Does anyone know anything about it (the ad was very vague and offered no comparison against the geodsey)??
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There is no better speed trap location system; no other product compares with our quality and unbeatable range of features.
(www.originbluei.co.uk)
Read an interesting piece by The Scotsman's motoring hack the other week. She reported that there are moves afoot (probably a private members bill or some such thing) to make all speed trap/camera detectors, passive or otherwise, illegal. Anyone found in posession will be heavily fined and endorsed. This woman ranted that it was about time that speeders were denied such early warning systems so that they were all caught, fined and hopefully banished from our roads.
Now we hear that the Government has decided they are all to be renamed safety cameras as of course (cue propaganda machine) they are all sited on dangerous stretches of road and no, they are not automated tax collectors. The logical conclusion is that camera warning devices clearly identify dangerous situations, as that must be why the camera is there, isn't that right Tony? Owning one therefore improves road safety as we get an early warning of danger ahead, advance warning of schools etc.
If such devices are indeed banned, the lie will have been exposed. Could be an interesting test case if it came to court.
Now we hear that the Government has decided they are all to be renamed safety cameras as of course (cue propaganda machine) they are all sited on dangerous stretches of road and no, they are not automated tax collectors. The logical conclusion is that camera warning devices clearly identify dangerous situations, as that must be why the camera is there, isn't that right Tony? Owning one therefore improves road safety as we get an early warning of danger ahead, advance warning of schools etc.
If such devices are indeed banned, the lie will have been exposed. Could be an interesting test case if it came to court.
I've been looking at the same two products, and decided on the Origin Blue based on the write ups.
But I couldn't find one in any shops, to check it out for size and weight etc....until I found the Selfridges (London) sell them. Its bigger than I expected, with an annoying clip stuck to it (used to attach it to the dash board stick on connector thing. It's not heavy, bulk in my opinion too bulky to carry around in a pocket (along with the car stereo fascia). Still...some may have big pockets
Having said all that, I'm still going to get one. I just need a Tuscan first.
But I couldn't find one in any shops, to check it out for size and weight etc....until I found the Selfridges (London) sell them. Its bigger than I expected, with an annoying clip stuck to it (used to attach it to the dash board stick on connector thing. It's not heavy, bulk in my opinion too bulky to carry around in a pocket (along with the car stereo fascia). Still...some may have big pockets
Having said all that, I'm still going to get one. I just need a Tuscan first.
look, just 'cos you have a database of locations, doesn't make it illegal to know where you are in the world ! they can't make GPS systems illegal, it would conflict with so many other devices, that they'd have problems enforcing it.
Anyway, you cannot detect GPS usage, and with the dwindling numbers of Plod around, what chance is there of being caught?!!!
Carl.
Anyway, you cannot detect GPS usage, and with the dwindling numbers of Plod around, what chance is there of being caught?!!!
Carl.
We all use our own logging device to keep track of local cameras - it's called memory - are we going to ban people from remembering where these cameras are? In the end, if it gets you to slow down, it's doing it's job - if you speed up afterwards, that's your choice, but you'd do that anyway, as soon as you'd passed the gatso - so where's the argument in favour of banning these passive devices?
It'll just lead to more mobile cameras, and less static ones, but under the govt. guidelines they must be at known accident blackspots, so we need to know where they are, don't we?
It'll just lead to more mobile cameras, and less static ones, but under the govt. guidelines they must be at known accident blackspots, so we need to know where they are, don't we?
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Would also be interested if anyone has one of these. Seen them around on websites etc, and would like to know if they are as good / better as the other...
Anyone?
Cheers,
Paul
I've had an Origin Blue I for a couple of months and I think it's excellent. The screen display give you a lot of info, some of which you arguably may not need, but it gives me great confidence in the information in the database. I've never tried the geodessy but I can't imagine having the same feeling of confidence from a bunch of flashing lights.
I didn't realise before I got the unit that it knows about a lot of temporary cameras as well, I was dead impressed when it warned me of one in roadworks on the M6 that hadn't been there very long. The Origin Blue I is the same price as the Geodessy Plus (direct from Origin www.originbluei.com) and as far as I can see there's no comparison, OBI is streets ahead.
I'm not worried about it being banned. I think radar detectors could be if this meddling govt stays around too long, but European law would make it almost impossible to ban GPS systems from what I've heard.
I have got a Geodsey - And have been very pleased with it - I agree that the Origin has more features - But ultimately they both do the same job - I thought there was too much information on the screen of the Origin - I like the simplicity of the Geo.
Also - I use the unit in lots of different vehicles so the fact that the Geo was water and shock proof was a bonus.
Having spoken to Morpheous - they can add most of the features on the Origin to their unit - by getting the display LEDS to light up differently.
You pays your money and makes your choice !
Haz
Also - I use the unit in lots of different vehicles so the fact that the Geo was water and shock proof was a bonus.
Having spoken to Morpheous - they can add most of the features on the Origin to their unit - by getting the display LEDS to light up differently.
You pays your money and makes your choice !
Haz
Road Angel is the new GPS system, supposed to be even better, I got one but haven't tested it yet so can't comment.
website at www.blackspot.com
website at www.blackspot.com
Actually I have tried the evaluation version of www.pocketstreetmap.co.uk which has a data feed from Origin. It means that my Ipaq with GPS sleve can be used in the same manner as the others.... quite nice really - and only £53.00 for the software and 1year subscrption. Ok, so you need to have an Ipaq and a GPS receiver but seeing as I have one already rather cheap...
Works a treat too.
Cheers,
Paul
Works a treat too.
Cheers,
Paul
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Actually I have tried the evaluation version of www.pocketstreetmap.co.uk which has a data feed from Origin. It means that my Ipaq with GPS sleve can be used in the same manner as the others.... quite nice really - and only £53.00 for the software and 1year subscrption. Ok, so you need to have an Ipaq and a GPS receiver but seeing as I have one already rather cheap...
Works a treat too.
Cheers,
Paul
I will second Paul in his comments above, I also use my IPAQ (I would love to see them ban PDA's) with the NAVMAN jacket (in case I get lost), the software above does as it says on the site!
bjayzus ... pocketsteetmaps seems to have come on a bit since I first saw it (4 or 5 yrs ago?)
pbrettle/richard92c2 ... I'm wondering what the practicality is like? How large a map area can be downloaded onto an ipaq in one go? Does it give an audible warning that can be heard in a car? Is there some kind of mounting bracket available for in-car use?
pbrettle/richard92c2 ... I'm wondering what the practicality is like? How large a map area can be downloaded onto an ipaq in one go? Does it give an audible warning that can be heard in a car? Is there some kind of mounting bracket available for in-car use?
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bjayzus ... pocketsteetmaps seems to have come on a bit since I first saw it (4 or 5 yrs ago?)
pbrettle/richard92c2 ... I'm wondering what the practicality is like? How large a map area can be downloaded onto an ipaq in one go? Does it give an audible warning that can be heard in a car? Is there some kind of mounting bracket available for in-car use?
The navman Jacket comes with an expansion slot (I have 250meg expanded ) so you can pretty much load load and load maps, As for the audible warning YES very effective too, and the Navman comes with a suction mounting for the windsreen, Its ok and does the required job, In fact I think its bloody marvelous!
Hope this helps!
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What kind of price would an ipaq / navman / flash card / software combo be?
See www.navman-mobile.com/
I haven't tried the Pocketstreetmap but have reservations, based upon what I have read on their web site.
1. Map storage is restricted to 20MB. After that, newer maps overwrite older ones in the 'cache'. In practice, I don't have any idea how much map you get into 20MB. The Web site says that "this is a very large area" but does anyone have any practical experience?
2. It's not clear whether the speed trap information is restricted to the maps you already have loaded into cache or if it covers the whole country, even if the applicable map isn't loaded. I'm not so keen on the possibility of finding myself in a part of a country for which I'd not managed to pre-load a map back at base. A system giving only partial coverage would be pretty useless.
3. Their speed trap feed is apparently dependent on obtaining the data from a third party (Origin).
As to banning PDAs, they wouldn't need to. They would simply make it an offence to collect and disseminate the data.
1. Map storage is restricted to 20MB. After that, newer maps overwrite older ones in the 'cache'. In practice, I don't have any idea how much map you get into 20MB. The Web site says that "this is a very large area" but does anyone have any practical experience?
2. It's not clear whether the speed trap information is restricted to the maps you already have loaded into cache or if it covers the whole country, even if the applicable map isn't loaded. I'm not so keen on the possibility of finding myself in a part of a country for which I'd not managed to pre-load a map back at base. A system giving only partial coverage would be pretty useless.
3. Their speed trap feed is apparently dependent on obtaining the data from a third party (Origin).
As to banning PDAs, they wouldn't need to. They would simply make it an offence to collect and disseminate the data.
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