Parking Ticket...
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I live in the wonderful borough of Wandsworth, London. As I walked home along my road today, I noticed my car had been issued with a parking ticket - funny, as I have a residents parking permit....
On closer inspection, I see that the residents permit ran out in Feb this year - council forgot to send a reminder. So the car has been parked 'illegally' for 7 weeks or so. Removed the parking ticket - have a quick glance at the make and model details - yes they have the right make of car (!) and have managed to get the correct colour (!!) however the third piece of information is not exactly correct. They got the registration wrong. How wrong..? Well if my reg was 'A123ABC' it is on the ticket as 'A12ABC. So one number is missing...
So what to do, ignore it, and if they chase for it, they have the wrong number plate anyway, so it can't be traced back to me...or can it? In the meantime I apply for residents parking again and life goes on.
What is my legal position, and what can I get away with..
Appreciate response..
Minnsy.
On closer inspection, I see that the residents permit ran out in Feb this year - council forgot to send a reminder. So the car has been parked 'illegally' for 7 weeks or so. Removed the parking ticket - have a quick glance at the make and model details - yes they have the right make of car (!) and have managed to get the correct colour (!!) however the third piece of information is not exactly correct. They got the registration wrong. How wrong..? Well if my reg was 'A123ABC' it is on the ticket as 'A12ABC. So one number is missing...
So what to do, ignore it, and if they chase for it, they have the wrong number plate anyway, so it can't be traced back to me...or can it? In the meantime I apply for residents parking again and life goes on.
What is my legal position, and what can I get away with..
Appreciate response..
Minnsy.
to celebrate your good fortune. Well, I'm going to anyway 
If you're entitled to a resident's permit (which you clearly are) you will get the fine waived* - I;ve achieved the same in both Kingston and Brighton.
However, you should present yourself forthwith if this defence is to be credible.
If they catch up with you, knowing you've ignored them, they're less likely to be civilised about things.
* You'll probably have to write a couple of strong letters and persist a little - I did.. no guarantees implied etc
>> Edited by CarZee on Friday 26th April 21:05
However, you should present yourself forthwith if this defence is to be credible.
If they catch up with you, knowing you've ignored them, they're less likely to be civilised about things.
* You'll probably have to write a couple of strong letters and persist a little - I did.. no guarantees implied etc
>> Edited by CarZee on Friday 26th April 21:05
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How about refuse to recognise their right to issue permits to park on a road you have paid for anyway and then put on a balaclava and go in search of the plonkers who hand out the tickets. Then beat the F***** sensless and eventually no one will want the job. (Long term thinking)
I know someone who does a good line in baseball bats n balaclavas!
Seriously though, I'd write back to them and politely tell them where to shove their ticket. They are proabably different departments that issue the permits n issue the tickets, so they wont talk to each other. But then again I could be talking out of me a****!
I had a similar thing recently where I got a snotty letter through the post explaining that I had two parking tickets outstanding. However, the form had the car reg as finishing with VNV not UNV which my car had.
Therefore I'm currently trying to be a cheeky git and wrote a letter to them saying that I have never owned or been in contact with the stated car (VNV that is). I'm hoping that as they have made a mistake on an official form, or the traffic warden was blind, I might get away with it - but I'm not holding my breath.
Therefore I'm currently trying to be a cheeky git and wrote a letter to them saying that I have never owned or been in contact with the stated car (VNV that is). I'm hoping that as they have made a mistake on an official form, or the traffic warden was blind, I might get away with it - but I'm not holding my breath.
There's a young bloke in a red, military police style cap who dishes out "Fixed Penalty Notices" in Leatherhead station car park to people who don't buy a ticket. Funny thing is, nowhere is there any kind of sign saying you have to pay for the car park - I've looked high and low.
I even asked the young man in the hat. His best effort was "I think there used to be one"
So how does this work then? I buy a piece of land, paint white lines on it then pounce on anyone who parks on it and give them a ticket. Nice work if you can get it.
I even asked the young man in the hat. His best effort was "I think there used to be one"
So how does this work then? I buy a piece of land, paint white lines on it then pounce on anyone who parks on it and give them a ticket. Nice work if you can get it.
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There's a young bloke in a red, military police style cap who dishes out "Fixed Penalty Notices" in Leatherhead station car park to people who don't buy a ticket. Funny thing is, nowhere is there any kind of sign saying you have to pay for the car park - I've looked high and low.
I even asked the young man in the hat. His best effort was "I think there used to be one"
So how does this work then? I buy a piece of land, paint white lines on it then pounce on anyone who parks on it and give them a ticket. Nice work if you can get it.
Ah the red military police style cap sepository
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There's a young bloke in a red, military police style cap who dishes out "Fixed Penalty Notices" in Leatherhead station car park to people who don't buy a ticket. Funny thing is, nowhere is there any kind of sign saying you have to pay for the car park - I've looked high and low.
I even asked the young man in the hat. His best effort was "I think there used to be one"
So how does this work then? I buy a piece of land, paint white lines on it then pounce on anyone who parks on it and give them a ticket. Nice work if you can get it.
Ah the red military police style cap sepository
belive it our not m8 you can do just that/
and ite legal
including clamping. you dont even need to own the land just permition from the owner to do it on his behalf.
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There's a young bloke in a red, military police style cap who dishes out "Fixed Penalty Notices" in Leatherhead station car park to people who don't buy a ticket. Funny thing is, nowhere is there any kind of sign saying you have to pay for the car park - I've looked high and low.
I even asked the young man in the hat. His best effort was "I think there used to be one"
So how does this work then? I buy a piece of land, paint white lines on it then pounce on anyone who parks on it and give them a ticket. Nice work if you can get it.
Ah the red military police style cap sepository
belive it our not m8 you can do just that/
and ite legal
including clamping. you dont even need to own the land just permition from the owner to do it on his behalf.
I know its a twat mate but the petrol cut off saw does the job they take the clamp off pretty sharpish and no charge either. A gas axe would be better but 'm a bit worried about aceylene in the boot.
Be a bit careful, the PA will also have noted the disc serial number from your tax disc, if your registration number draws a blank or turns out to be on an entirely different car the fall back trace will be on that serial number which is cross referenced on the DVLA computer. The PA will also have recorded certain salient features about your car and where it was etc on the 'husky' computer note pad.
The fines and surcharges will keep mounting up. Unpaid fines ultimately are passed to a baliff you has the power to clamp your car and then remove it if you haven't paid the fine and all the add on costs.
The fact that you are entitled to a residents permit would cut no ice with the Parking Commissioner if you haven't paid for the period in question.
Its taking all the fun away isn't it.
The fines and surcharges will keep mounting up. Unpaid fines ultimately are passed to a baliff you has the power to clamp your car and then remove it if you haven't paid the fine and all the add on costs.
The fact that you are entitled to a residents permit would cut no ice with the Parking Commissioner if you haven't paid for the period in question.
Its taking all the fun away isn't it.
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There's a young bloke in a red, military police style cap who dishes out "Fixed Penalty Notices" in Leatherhead station car park to people who don't buy a ticket. Funny thing is, nowhere is there any kind of sign saying you have to pay for the car park - I've looked high and low.
I even asked the young man in the hat. His best effort was "I think there used to be one"
So how does this work then? I buy a piece of land, paint white lines on it then pounce on anyone who parks on it and give them a ticket. Nice work if you can get it.
Ah the red military police style cap sepository
belive it our not m8 you can do just that/
and ite legal
including clamping. you dont even need to own the land just permition from the owner to do it on his behalf.
I know its a twat mate but the petrol cut off saw does the job they take the clamp off pretty sharpish and no charge either. A gas axe would be better but 'm a bit worried about aceylene in the boot.
we normaly use a petrol grinder. It works a treat.
remember chasing a clamper up the road a good few years back with a 8poubd sleage hammer, that was amusing :-)
Nice one. I think you will find that if the ticket is wrong, then you consequently find that you are tracked down (which is possible but unlikely), that the top copy of the form is issued to you and the carbon underneath one is used as the evidence should you either fail to respond or dispute the facts. This form is evidence and original notes made at the time by the officer issuing the ticket. He/she has to prove the offence beyond reasonable doubt. I think not in this case. If you are followed up, request a court hearing, plead not guilty and state that yes you do have a red car A123 ABC but there must have been a similar one in that place A12 ABC which received the ticket.How can anyone prove otherwise. I expect you have got away with this Have you checked your MOT!!!
I once got a parking ticket for parking in a residents' zone without a permit.
I'd parked in between the 'residents' sign and the 'pay and display' sign. I'd arrived from the pay and display end, and hadn't seen the residents sign as it was end on to me because the the road curved away. The paint was almost completely worn off the road so it wasn't obvious which zone was which. I bought a pay and display ticket honestly believing that this was in order - I didn't know about the residents' zone at all.
Got back to the car and there was a warden issuing a penalty notice. I pointed all this out, he said you're getting the ticket anyway cos there's a tiny sign off in the distance which you can't see properly.
So wrote to those charmers at Edinburgh City Council and said eff off, or polite words to that effect, and quoted the wardens collar number, having told him that I would do so. They wrote back and said, tough, pay up. But you can appeal through our new quick and easy small court type independent appeal process ...
Standing for none of this I started the appeal process. As soon as they knew I was appealing, they wrote and said OK forget it.
So what bothers me is that the buggers were quite prepared to make me pay until they knew that I was going to make trouble for them by appealling. How many people wouldn't want to go to the hassle of appealling and would just pay up quietly when they didn't need to?
Final thing: they were out repainting the lines in that area a few days afterwards! (Evidence in itself).
I'd parked in between the 'residents' sign and the 'pay and display' sign. I'd arrived from the pay and display end, and hadn't seen the residents sign as it was end on to me because the the road curved away. The paint was almost completely worn off the road so it wasn't obvious which zone was which. I bought a pay and display ticket honestly believing that this was in order - I didn't know about the residents' zone at all.
Got back to the car and there was a warden issuing a penalty notice. I pointed all this out, he said you're getting the ticket anyway cos there's a tiny sign off in the distance which you can't see properly.
So wrote to those charmers at Edinburgh City Council and said eff off, or polite words to that effect, and quoted the wardens collar number, having told him that I would do so. They wrote back and said, tough, pay up. But you can appeal through our new quick and easy small court type independent appeal process ...
Standing for none of this I started the appeal process. As soon as they knew I was appealing, they wrote and said OK forget it.
So what bothers me is that the buggers were quite prepared to make me pay until they knew that I was going to make trouble for them by appealling. How many people wouldn't want to go to the hassle of appealling and would just pay up quietly when they didn't need to?
Final thing: they were out repainting the lines in that area a few days afterwards! (Evidence in itself).
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