Caught by a mobile laser gun???
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3 weeks ago on a dual carraigeway I was doing 50-55 in a 40 zone. The only excuse was I had pulled out to overtake a slower white van on the inside lane.
As I overtook the van I saw plod with a gun and a little red dot so I naturally assumed I had been caught.
I havent had anything through the post yet and a friend has told me that if you are caught by a mobile laser gun the only way you can be fined is if they stop you further up the road because they have no proof as the gun does not record the number plate.
Anybody know if this is true or can they fine you after the event?
Cheers
Paul
Depends Laser can be used on its own or attached to a video. On its own you are stopped and reported, with Laser video it comes through the post. In the latter case I would have thought you would have heard by now. Its unusual to see the red dot as this is an optical sight and the dot is in the view finder, it is not like the laser sights which actually project a dot onto the target.
I think you may be lucky. I read on www.ukspeedtraps .co.uk that the fuzz have 14 days to notify you of an intended prosecution, if not, your off the hook.
Please read it to make sure Ive read it correctly.
Steelnads
Please read it to make sure Ive read it correctly.
Steelnads
If you haven't heard anything by now I wouldn't worry. 14 days for serving an NIP on you are up, unless that is you were in a company car. In which case the NIP could have been sent to your fleet manager who hasn't told you about yet.
If you are a company car driver, check with your fleet manager to see if he has heard anything.
Rob
If you are a company car driver, check with your fleet manager to see if he has heard anything.
Rob
youre right
14 days from the point where they now who is the reg keeper. so a quick police computer check and your keeper will show- - so hence if you have the vehicle registered corrctly? they had 14 days
do check with your company if it s their car.
The hitman explanation sounds more realistic though!!
14 days from the point where they now who is the reg keeper. so a quick police computer check and your keeper will show- - so hence if you have the vehicle registered corrctly? they had 14 days
do check with your company if it s their car.
The hitman explanation sounds more realistic though!!
I heard that if you ask for the callibration certificate for mobile speed traps, they must by law show them to you, and if they are not calibrated every day, then the reading they got is void because they have no proof that the gun was working correctly.
Apparently, the callibration certificates are very rarely up to date.
Apparently, the callibration certificates are very rarely up to date.
Sorry to disapoint you the hand held/video laser only needs to be calibrated every 6 months, ours are are always done without fail. The bit you are referng to was the 'run through' which used to be done by a traffic car with calibrated speedo. That has now been done away with and is no longer a requirement. The device has a self check test which it always goes through each time it is turned on this has now been accepted as proof it is working. It used to be a bit of a joke checking £10,000 worth of equipment with a traffic car and then going and checking the accuracy of the speedo with a 30 year old stopwatch (all be it a calibrated and certified stopwatch and yess we even have the calibration cert for that as well)
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Sorry to disapoint you the hand held/video laser only needs to be calibrated every 6 months, ours are are always done without fail. The bit you are referng to was the 'run through' which used to be done by a traffic car with calibrated speedo. That has now been done away with and is no longer a requirement. The device has a self check test which it always goes through each time it is turned on this has now been accepted as proof it is working. It used to be a bit of a joke checking £10,000 worth of equipment with a traffic car and then going and checking the accuracy of the speedo with a 30 year old stopwatch (all be it a calibrated and certified stopwatch and yess we even have the calibration cert for that as well)
How come you did not confirm the 14 day nip rule for the guy?
as he has not recived one in 3 week.
Therefor the laser gun wont even come into it.
>> Edited by outlaw on Monday 29th April 12:10
John,
The "self check test" you refer to would that be the same advanced method of calibration that used to be used on handheld radar guns many moons ago when I used to use them, i.e a tuning fork, you bang it point the gun at it and if it reads 66mph or whatever it was it's ok and away you go !
The "self check test" you refer to would that be the same advanced method of calibration that used to be used on handheld radar guns many moons ago when I used to use them, i.e a tuning fork, you bang it point the gun at it and if it reads 66mph or whatever it was it's ok and away you go !
No the self check is an electronic test. When you turn the device on it runs through the test before the display comes up, if there is a problem then it shows an error mesage and will not function. The only other test we do on laser is to check the sight accuracy. This is done by switching it to a test mode and aiming it at a lampost for example the tone it emits will change when the beam hit the post. OK I will also confirm that if you have not heard anything by now that you are unlikely to hear anything, that is providing you are the registered keeper of course.
>> Edited by john robson on Monday 29th April 17:16
>> Edited by john robson on Monday 29th April 17:16
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No the self check is an electronic test. When you turn the device on it runs through the test before the display comes up, if there is a problem then it shows an error mesage and will not function. The only other test we do on laser is to check the sight accuracy. This is done by switching it to a test mode and aiming it at a lampost for example the tone it emits will change when the beam hit the post.
So just to clarify, the only requirement to verify the accuracy of the speed measurement function of a laser gun is now a six monthly calibration. Are those manufacturer's recommendations or ACPO's?
Just out of interest, if during the laser gun's half yearly calibration check it was determined to be giving erroneous speed readings, would any defendant caught in the previous six months by that device have their charges dropped or case reviewed?
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