New Endorsement proposal

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patrick

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513 posts

291 months

Wednesday 20th December 2000
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Yet another attack on the motorist, making us all feel to terrified of taking the beastie out for a blast. Why does this Govt have to bully the motorist ?? First car prices, then fuel tax, now it looks as if they'll make it an offence to drive your car on any day with a Y in it !

leadfoot

1,905 posts

288 months

Wednesday 20th December 2000
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Vote Monster raving Loony party at the election as a protest at the numpties. Seriously tho', what the hell are the Gov playing at? Do they really want to alienate ordinary people this much? Cheap headlines?

Dan

1,068 posts

291 months

Thursday 21st December 2000
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I am getting increasingly sick and tired of these continual threats on motorists from the government. Everyone who has even the remotest interest in driving is aware that while speed is a factor in all RTA's (for it not to be your vehicle needs to be standing still), you can also argue that road surface quality and insufficient grip are also a major factor in a high percentage (but where is the revenue in that?). The recent case of a guy who was convicted having being involved in an accident whilst traveling at the speed limit, highlights the fact that we should all be intelligent enough to work out how fast we should go, not be told by some local councilors. 15-20mph may be appropriate outside a school at 15:30 but 35-40 maybe more sensible at 21:30 (its not rocket science). If there are drivers out there who are as incompetent as the government believes, then driver training and awareness should take a higher precedence. NOT HIGHER FINES AND MORE POINTS!!!!!!!!! Phew! There I feel better now

GreenV8S

30,475 posts

291 months

Tuesday 30th January 2001
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I am getting increasingly sick and tired of these continual threats on motorists from the government.
Not sure if this is what your original comment was about, but I've just learned details of the government's proposed new penalty scheme. For example an automatic seven points (out of twenty) for 75 mph on a clear motorway, three of these within six years can get you an automatic six month. Penalties for other speed-related offenses are similarly punitive. The proposal also makes it easier for the courts to confiscate your car, although there is no intention (yet?) to apply this for speeding offenses. These proposals strike me as completely outrageous and although they're claimed to be aimed to improve safety I don't believe that is the motive behind them. At the moment the proposal is at the 'consultation' stage, which means there's still a chance to do something about it. But don't be complacent, the consultation phase ends in March. If there is no effective opposition to them they *will* become law. More details about the proposals, including a link to the government's consultation paper and advice on what we can do to oppose it, can be found at: http://www.lovejoy.demon.co.uk/lobbying/speed-proposals_main.html B*stards! Peter Humphries (and a green V8S) Edited by GreenV8S on Wednesday 31st January 13:52

Dan

1,068 posts

291 months

Tuesday 30th January 2001
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Having read through part of this document... This is exactly what I mean!!!!! I agree with a number of points outlined, but it is obvious that whoever put it together, hardly ever drives a car outside the city, or has a personal driver who can be blamed for any indiscretions. Improved driver standards are required, but you are not going to improve the standard of the 'average' driver by banning everyone who travels at 80mph on the motorway!!! Its the bimbling tossers that drive at 65mph in a 70 limit that run over all the children and drive up the wrong side of dual carriageways!!!! I will be writing a letter to my MP, but I think I'd better calm down first.

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

310 months

Tuesday 30th January 2001
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When the hell is someone going to improve driver training before beating everyone with a stick for not driving properly? The UK driving test is an absolute joke.