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WoodE

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39 posts

275 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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Firstly:

All or most detector 'retailers' give a discount for buying more than say, 10 or so, detectors from them at any one time, this is known as bulk buying, as im sure most of you are aware.

I'm thinking a long 2 lines.. 1. to build a website on motor vehicles, safety, law, speed traps etc etc etc, more info below.

2. To start a list of people who are interested in buying such gadgets but want a reduced rate... if enough of us get together, we could get quite a substancial discount on these systems.

I am aware that none of these companies disallows this kind of bulk buying, as it is cheaper for them to manufacture 100+ than it is 10+ anyway... so this could be possible.

As for the website, i am an avid website designer, not the best in the world, but good enough for my needs right now... and im sure others could help.. but im thinking of a site which is all about driving, and the drivers ok the UK.

It would contain information on driving, such as safety tips, driving tips, gadgets (from GPS to automatic tyre pressure gauges, whatever), debates [kinda like here], polls, petitions to be sent to MP's about the abuse of speed cams etc, how to guides, such as how to change an air filter, windscreen wipers, oil etc, and simple 'road side' service in case of an emergency.
Possibly encorporate a list for people wanting to 'bulk buy' gadgets as described above... and an 'auction site' for new/used gadgets or cars, whatever.

I am not a car wiz, so i would need a lot of research etc, but with help from yourselves, it could be a great site, though i would not try to takeover the current sites who already list reviews on detectors etc, they would be linked from the site, with the permission of the author.

Any ideas or comments are most welcome, and wanted!



WoodE

PS. this is currently in idea stages, as i would have to pay for all the hosting fee's and domain holding... unless one of you work for an ISP or Windows Host =)

[my site can be seen by clicking my name to the left, for an example of my website abilities]

>>> Edited by WoodE on Wednesday 14th November 01:20

mel

10,168 posts

281 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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Isn't that the whole idea behind "letsbuyit.com" !!!!!

JonRB

75,725 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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And as Captain Blackadder said, "It was a brilliant plan, with just one small problem; it was bollocks".

Actually, the concept of letsbuyit.com wasn't too bad, it was their flawed business plan that was at fault.

Anyway WoodE, I think you'd find that it would probably not be sustainable, as letsbuyit.com found. I think they've finally ditched the idea and have become agents / resellers / brokers for goods instead.

Neil Menzies

5,167 posts

290 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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...to build a website on motor vehicles, safety, law, speed traps etc etc etc, more info below.

Isn't that somewhat in competition with Pistonheads... where you're discussing it? A little disrespectful, methinks...

Marv

158 posts

279 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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But at least Woode is trying to make an effort...

But like the others said, most of it has already been covered it pistonheads, ukspeedtraps.co.uk or would be difficult to put into place and keep running. To take money you would have to have a secure server and a certificate or get a third party to do that but they would take a cut therefore increasing the cost.

WoodE

Original Poster:

39 posts

275 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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Its nothing like letsbuyit.com, i didn't say i was going for a 'lets retail the entire fecking world', simply for owners of vehicles who wanna dump their old gadgets.

And as for the website, i don't see gassing station with any how to's, safety guides, highway code guides, laws etc?

Small minds obviously don't see business like, i remove my idea to help people and ya can go help yaself.

[Thanx Marv, atleast someone appreciates it]

Edited by WoodE on Wednesday 14th November 12:27

ohidunno

506 posts

278 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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Letsbuyit have an icon to suggest a new product. why not press it and save a lot of hassle. ok, so they will want to make some cash but may well be able to negotiate a pretty keen deal.

WoodE

Original Poster:

39 posts

275 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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I didn't want to run from someone elses website, as i then have no control or order about it, i wanted to help people and build a site everyone could be involved with, such as sending in reviews or stories of their own.

I wanted to build a site worthwhile and something to be proud of.. I don't see any complaints about the fact that there are several websites about speed cameras, but as soon as i suggest my idea i get slated for copying ideas or being unthoughtful towards PistonHeads.

Jesus, whats the catch here, can't a man help others once in a while without being degraded?

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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Hey, no worries about it being discussed here. PistonHeads can't be all things to all men (as much as I'm trying ). If you believe in what you're doing, don't get fazed by critics.

It's certainly got merit as a site that would be popular, but as everyone tried to warn me when setting PH up - making money on the net is er... well rather difficult. Don't expect to make anything other than pocket money unless you're prepared to take a major gamble (and investment - cash and/or time).

Also, expect to have to write the content yourself. People will contribute when the site achieves a critical mass or has sparked their interest, but not before. Don't expect something for nothing.

My advice? Get on down and do it - start simple and see how far you can get. If you believe in the idea, then don't be put off by critics - prove them wrong. It's quite a motivating force

The one rule of success on the web? Content is king. Nothing else matters.

WoodE

Original Poster:

39 posts

275 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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Finally!

A positive and (rather nice!) reply..

I wasn't really planning of making money out of it as such... just enough to keep its head above water with hosting costs etc.

I had, and still have, no intentions of ripping websites, or trying to take their 'customers', as thats nothing to be proud of... stealing other people.. I just wanted to do something about motorvehicles that everyone could benefit from, as i have really gotten into this web board in the past week or so.. and several other driving sites..

WoodE

PS. I could never do road tests or anything myself... not sports cars anyway, as im sure they wouldn't let a 19 year old let rip in one just for a website review.

It has been my dream for years to make something worthwhile on the internet, be it a website or software (Though Visual Basic is rather pants for hi-demand software)

Edited by WoodE on Thursday 15th November 03:25

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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(Though Visual Basic is rather pants for hi-demand software)


Websites aren't high demand processor wise. VB has finally achieved the dream of RAD software. I have the advantage of a team of thousands of testers though (thankyou everyone!)

WoodE

Original Poster:

39 posts

275 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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I know websites don't take up much resource (unless you balls up some ASP which likes a bit of a infinate loop), but i think the hardest part of making a success of any kind on the internet is either doing something no-one has ever done before, or doing it better.

This, i am failing to do, cos everything i think of, has already been done =(

Anyone wanna give ideas? If i make it a multi-millionairre, i'll reward you handsomely

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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Just start playing with the web. That's what I did and look what happened. Good point - stick to the day job

There's still massive scope on the web as too many people think too narrowly about what it is and follow the 'established' way of doing things. Start playing with something you enjoy rather than looking out for the big idea and you may just stumble across it anyway.

WoodE

Original Poster:

39 posts

275 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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driving.co.uk blows my idea into oblivion.

Nightmare

5,222 posts

290 months

Friday 16th November 2001
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then think differently...I think your original idea has merit (and thats my job btw) as it hasnt actually been done before at all....not in a focussed enough way to be succesful anyway.

As Ted says - there are millions of things out there which need doing right - if you actually want to make money out of it, don't just think about what interests you, think about what isnt there that you might expect...and go from there. If you just want to 'play' with the web a bit, then chose anything!

Night

oh, and content is definitely king!

philshort

8,293 posts

283 months

Friday 16th November 2001
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WoodE, don't be put off so easily! If you beleive in the idea then go for it. Do you think someone like Branson would be put off by a few critics - "nah, you'll never sell records by post mate, how can you check if you like 'em first?" - I don't think so.

Personally I think theres plenty of scope yet for web sites like this. Variety is the spice of life after all, and good though PetrolHeads is it does have a particular focus.