Join the Association of British Drivers!

Join the Association of British Drivers!

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derekmuesli

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72 posts

279 months

Wednesday 10th October 2001
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I'm reading the latest newsletter from the Association of British Drivers and it's making my blood boil..

Reading the current initiatives to drive us off the road is like chewing glass. "Someone has to do something", is the plaintive cry I hear around here...

Well, the Association of British Drivers are the only ones who are doing anything! The organisation has been around for 10 years now. It's gaining weight and recognition all the time, but not fast enough to keep up with the tree huggers.. We need you guys...

Twenty quid a year for someone to pursue your interests is tiny money. You might even find ways to really get involved in stopping the 'Speed Kills' lobby in it's tracks.

www.abd.org.uk

be there or be.. umm.. non the wiser really.. and I'd expect better from you lot !

Ted: Hope I'm not out of order here, chap, but I really think these guys are our best chance of restoring some balance. Has there been any thought of linking up with them ?

cheers all....
Derekmuesli

ps... something that made me smile from the newsletter:

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Lancashire County Councillor Alan Whittaker has been caught speeding 3 times - by a camera he petitioned for.

But he believes more cameras will serve to make the county's roads safer. He backs Lancashire Police force's decision to increase their tally of cameras from 69 to 320 over the next two years.

He said: "It would be hypocritical of me to campaign for this for several years and then condemn it when I got caught. I got caught doing 35 in a 30 and I was caught out, and rightly so. Some might say it's bad luck, but I am glad it's working."

The most worrying thing is that three times he failed to see the same gatso - with observational skills like that no wonder he things the only way foward is reduced speeds.



Caught 3 times and he claims it's working ???? Oh dear...

nonegreen

7,803 posts

276 months

Wednesday 10th October 2001
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This councillor bloke is a bit of a twat really isn't he? If he is paying so little attention to his driving that he drives through a speed camera he petitionned for, then surely this is proof he is driving recklessly and he should therfore be banned immediatly.

derekmuesli

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72 posts

279 months

Wednesday 10th October 2001
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If only life were that sweet...

The horrifying thing is that this sort of QED eludes upwards of 90% of the general pube-lic in my estimation.

Nonegreen.. I've been reading your posts with increasing interest - are you in the ABD ? Cos you should be..

apache

39,731 posts

290 months

Wednesday 10th October 2001
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Ted was quite happy to offer a reasonable advertising rate for the ABD, I conveyed this to them and have heard nothing since

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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I have spoken to them about other matters and do appreciate that they run things on a shoestring. I must confess I've not even got off my arse and joined myself.

So, Apache, if you want to convey to the powers that be in the ABD that if they want to get a banner over to me, I'll give them some FOC promotion where I've got spare capacity.

derekmuesli

Original Poster:

72 posts

279 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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I've forwarded my thoughts on these comments to a few email addresses of the head honchos in the newsletter - maybe we'll get some feedback..

If not I'll clearly have to seize control of their on-line affairs.. lol..

McNab

1,627 posts

280 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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With you all the way Derek.

I joined the ABD in July (see my posting in General Gassing on 28th July) and am amazed that they haven't attracted more members. This is almost certainly due to lack of cash for publicity/advertising.

They are the only organisation 'on our side' and deserve all the support we can give them.

big rumbly

973 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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Hi Guys. I re-iterate my previous posts.
The only way to change is to campaign.
the most logical platform is the ABD.
There really is no reason for everyone who accesses this site not to join the ABD.
If we can't get like minded people to join and spread the word, there is little hope for improvement I'm afraid.
Come on Guys and Gals, Dig not so deep and Enroll today.
Cheers

Big Rumbly

RichB

52,600 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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I've been a member for the last couple of years, £20 quid seems like a good investment to me. Just do it...

Neil Menzies

5,167 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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Likewise I joined earlier this year. 20 quid is not a lot compared with a tank of petrol, and in the long run it might save you a lot more than that!

guysh

2,254 posts

289 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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I joined this morning...!

big rumbly

973 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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Great stuff. Spread the word

dan

1,068 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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Been a member for over a year, and will happily keep up my membership.

I must confess I tend not to read the newsletter to often, as it usually leaves me bouncing off the walls.

They have/are increasing the membership this year and its still worth every penny. If it means increasing public awareness of the real facts about cars and driving I would be happy to contribute more.

derekmuesli

Original Poster:

72 posts

279 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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I must confess I tend not to read the newsletter to often, as it usually leaves me bouncing off the walls.



Tell me about it.. that's partly the point though... by making our blood boil, we are encouraged to be more actively involved.

There are increasing numbers of area meetings where such issues as proposed limit changes and camera introductions can be brought to light in order that everyone can lodge their objections with the council.

I know that when we're not on the road, a lot of us like to talk about it over a beer and share information. So, if there isn't a meeting local to you, start organising one.. !

Pushing the cause at track days, club meets (TVR, Lotus, Audi etc) and so forth is something I've noticed to be lacking..

Spead the word and stop the muesli-munchers !

apache

39,731 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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Ted, got a response from Mark today....said he'd email you...this feels like a virtual 'Streetmate'

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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Yep, just corresponded with him.

...and I just joined the ABD

www.abd.org.uk/join.htm

nonegreen

7,803 posts

276 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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I was a founder member of the ABD, my membership number was in the low 30's. I feel that while I support the ABD wholeheartedly and actively encourage people to join the organisation. I am at present engaged in harrassing as many politicians and drug crazed greens as I can get my hands on. So I don't think that my kind of campaign will endear the ABD to the great unwashed. One of my favorite hobbies to to attend Local authority street meets and wind the buggers up, (often making them gasp or even resort to tears) if I was a member of the ABD I would have to be logical and reasonable. I often don't feel like this and so let fly with all kinds of contravercial ideas to counter the growing anti car feeling backed by the notion that "well informed politically correct members of society know for sure that cars are evil and global warming is here".

derekmuesli

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72 posts

279 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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Top Man, Ted.. leading by example.. that's what we like

Nonegreen... I totally know where you're coming from. However, I think that if the ABD wants to be sniffy towards more direct and controversial activists, then they'll remain a small minority group.

Really, we have to bring together poeple from the multitude of pro-motoring 'sects'. If there are as many people becoming pro-motor as the press seem to think, then we need to harness that people-power.

I know that it's important not to alienate potential supporters of the cause, but on the other hand, what sizeable organisation does not display diversity in the minutae of their members beliefs and attitudes, whilst standing together behind common principles and goals?

I realise siting a political party might be a distasteful way of illustrating what I'm saying, but I don't have to mention any party in particular. They all display this characteristic.

If the ABD wants to increase it's membership 10-fold - which it needs to - then it can't expect to enroll 20 thousand people who all have exactly the same point of view and disposition.

I rest my face...

derekmuesli

Original Poster:

72 posts

279 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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ps.. Whilst treading this fine line, I am also 100% in favour of non-violent direct action, disruption and civil disobedience in the name of retaining freedom which is being greedily consumed by the government.

[If anyone does any of this, it's off their own bat - not my responsibility. I take responsibility for me and me only.]

big rumbly

973 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th October 2001
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Numbers do make sense.
An analogy I like to use is that I was an early member of CAMRA in the 70's and am still supporting. From the tens of people that started, it quickly grew, peaking at over 50,000 members. The changes CAMRA have made over the years is astounding