M6 Manchester to Birmingham
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I have just endured the most annoying 2 hours drive of recent times. This journey is unbelievable, the speed limit constantly changing & cameras every bloody where.
In the space of 60 miles it changes from 70 to 50 to 70 to 40 to 70. Half the time I had no idea what speed I was supposed to be doing and just after spaghetti I think I may have been done by one of those overhead forward facing cameras. I'm not sure how these work, but I saw a little blue light appear just as I drove beneath the gantry to which it was mounted. I was probably doing about 49. It's so frustrating as I'd tried to be so careful the whole way down but there was a big artic in front of me in the inside lane who must have been doing 35 so I think I accelerated a little too hard at just the wrong time to get past him.
I am so angry, having so many speed changes CANNOT be safe on a motorway.
A very annoyed and frustrated Jim.
In the space of 60 miles it changes from 70 to 50 to 70 to 40 to 70. Half the time I had no idea what speed I was supposed to be doing and just after spaghetti I think I may have been done by one of those overhead forward facing cameras. I'm not sure how these work, but I saw a little blue light appear just as I drove beneath the gantry to which it was mounted. I was probably doing about 49. It's so frustrating as I'd tried to be so careful the whole way down but there was a big artic in front of me in the inside lane who must have been doing 35 so I think I accelerated a little too hard at just the wrong time to get past him.
I am so angry, having so many speed changes CANNOT be safe on a motorway.
A very annoyed and frustrated Jim.
Jim - yes: it is arguably THE worst journey in Christendom.
Frankly, I simply refuse to use it now unless I'm hopping onto or from the M56 during non-rush hour times or it's between 2 and 4 AM.
In many ways, the M6 is one of the biggest disgraces in the British economy and is a tesatment to our failed political system.
Hell on earth, pal, hell on earth.
Frankly, I simply refuse to use it now unless I'm hopping onto or from the M56 during non-rush hour times or it's between 2 and 4 AM.
In many ways, the M6 is one of the biggest disgraces in the British economy and is a tesatment to our failed political system.
Hell on earth, pal, hell on earth.
Funny you should say this - I've just this minute arrived back from a trip down the M6. The A5 is rather jolly too - vans of the speed enforcement variety everywhere and all that lovely road going to waste.
The roadworks (40 limit) on the M6 are fun - especially the Specs cameras through most of them....
I hadn't realised they were so small! Thank you Mr Origin, I owe you one!
The roadworks (40 limit) on the M6 are fun - especially the Specs cameras through most of them....
I hadn't realised they were so small! Thank you Mr Origin, I owe you one! I've been through those cameras quite a few times and I'm certain that I wasn't under the speed limit on every occasion. You can try to slow down as much as you like but you end up being overtaken by HGV after HGV. I've not received anything in the post though so I think you'll be OK.
The 40 limits particularly are a disgrace. The section at the new junction with the "by-pass" just south of J4 now regularly has a mobile revenue generator on the overpass - its very easy to be travelling too fast in this 40 limit when getting pushed by HGV's. Escepcially after enduring the 50 mph limit starting near Corley services which is there because the road is sinking - pretty well everyone ignores this limit.
mungo said: Jim. Count yourself lucky, I have to do that trip every week, Manch <-> Southampton. Leaving tomorrow at 05:00. It really is a fecking nightmare of the worst dimensions!!!!
Edited to add your lucky it was 2 hours and got to drive to the limits. Worst ever journey back home South took me over 7 hours mostly stuck on jams in the M6 and M42
I avoid M6 if I can. I cut across the A50, down the M1 and then back across to the M40 at either Daventry (A361 to Banbury) or Northampton for the Silverstone bypass.
no - that's not to say you haven't been caught..
specs is just a series of digital video cameras with IR gear strapped on. You're timed between cameras so whether you get done depends on what your average speed was between any two cameras. I don't think the blue light means anything, as these obviously don't work like gatsos or truvelos..
there's plenty of info on them if you dig around on the web..
specs is just a series of digital video cameras with IR gear strapped on. You're timed between cameras so whether you get done depends on what your average speed was between any two cameras. I don't think the blue light means anything, as these obviously don't work like gatsos or truvelos..
there's plenty of info on them if you dig around on the web..
Don't even get me started on the M-bloody-6. Saturday Morning, 10:20. Leave North Ayrshire, Via Kilmarnock, Strathaven, M74 - A74. Hit Carlisle about 11.30. Arrive Silbury Boulevard, Milton Keynes 16.45. 5 hours on that bloody road. 50 limits, 70 limits, 60 limits, 40 limits. Police Cars, Speed Camera's, RoadWorks (Read, Good excuse for a speed camera or TEN!) humps for half a mile, Patrol cars on side standing bits, patrol cars in services, patrol cars on bridges, on slip roads and patrol cars with only one head light working Specs, Gatso's, Truvelo's, lasers, Mobile Gatso's. WTF. It's just another good excuse to persecute Joe Bloody Motorist who's trying not to drag out a 400 mile journey.
One example, A74 Southbound about 1 mile short of the M6. Farm shop on the right before bridge, immediatly after bridge on the left is a slip road. In said slip road is a Mercedes Traffic Car with two coppers in it. Half a mile down the road is another Mercerdes Trffic Car with two coppers in it. Timing system perhaps? A couple of hundred yards down the road, another slip road, wider than usual, with 6 (YES 6) Volvo V70 T5 Marked Traffic Cars lined up, lights on, engines running (could see the steam coming from the exhaust. It was cold you know). Bloody cumbria police were only on a crack down on speeding...ON A STRAIGHT ROAD. Admittidly they were only after the piss takers, I went past doing just over 80 and they left me alone, but some poor sod who obviously wasn't looking went by me at around 90 and got done.
I drive that road quite often and for the next 14 days I'm shitting myself incase one of the lovely constabulary's sends me a letter, and I'm fcuked if two send me them, thats me without a license. It annoys me that they put so many on that road.
No jams at all on Saturday. Light Traffic, until Birmingham. Quite a good journey!
Edited to say: Those things on the gantry's aren't
gatso's, they are part off the TrafficMaster system. They read number plates and time you to the next reader, from that they get the average speed BUT the system doesn't store Reg No and speed together, just the speed, and only uses it if there is a problem.
Edited to correct the last edit, and change the spelling, but I couldn't be arsed with the spelling
>> Edited by tvradict on Tuesday 10th December 22:48
>> Edited by tvradict on Tuesday 10th December 22:49
Specs, Gatso's, Truvelo's, lasers, Mobile Gatso's. WTF. It's just another good excuse to persecute Joe Bloody Motorist who's trying not to drag out a 400 mile journey. One example, A74 Southbound about 1 mile short of the M6. Farm shop on the right before bridge, immediatly after bridge on the left is a slip road. In said slip road is a Mercedes Traffic Car with two coppers in it. Half a mile down the road is another Mercerdes Trffic Car with two coppers in it. Timing system perhaps? A couple of hundred yards down the road, another slip road, wider than usual, with 6 (YES 6) Volvo V70 T5 Marked Traffic Cars lined up, lights on, engines running (could see the steam coming from the exhaust. It was cold you know). Bloody cumbria police were only on a crack down on speeding...ON A STRAIGHT ROAD. Admittidly they were only after the piss takers, I went past doing just over 80 and they left me alone, but some poor sod who obviously wasn't looking went by me at around 90 and got done.
I drive that road quite often and for the next 14 days I'm shitting myself incase one of the lovely constabulary's sends me a letter, and I'm fcuked if two send me them, thats me without a license. It annoys me that they put so many on that road.
No jams at all on Saturday. Light Traffic, until Birmingham. Quite a good journey!
Edited to say: Those things on the gantry's aren't
gatso's, they are part off the TrafficMaster system. They read number plates and time you to the next reader, from that they get the average speed BUT the system doesn't store Reg No and speed together, just the speed, and only uses it if there is a problem.
Edited to correct the last edit, and change the spelling, but I couldn't be arsed with the spelling
>> Edited by tvradict on Tuesday 10th December 22:48
>> Edited by tvradict on Tuesday 10th December 22:49
Tvradict - it's pure, unadulterated persecution of your freedom by a bunch of tiny willied, drooling vegetables.
Frankly, the limit on that section of the M6 should at times be raised to at least 120. It won't because our politicians are too gay.
Kind of typifies the prevailing mentaility in Britain.
The one of an all-pervading 'can't do' - kill 'em all.
And let's have a decent dictator, please.
Frankly, the limit on that section of the M6 should at times be raised to at least 120. It won't because our politicians are too gay.
Kind of typifies the prevailing mentaility in Britain.
The one of an all-pervading 'can't do' - kill 'em all.
And let's have a decent dictator, please.
derestrictor said: Tvradict - it's pure, unadulterated persecution of your freedom by a bunch of tiny willied, drooling vegetables.
Frankly, the limit on that section of the M6 should at times be raised to at least 120. It won't because our politicians are too gay.
Kind of typifies the prevailing mentaility in Britain.
The one of an all-pervading 'can't do' - kill 'em all.
And let's have a decent dictator, please.
...because they're too gay??? What are you on?? Unsubstantiated rants are one thing but, even if it were true, I fail to see how who you go to bed with makes any difference on this issue.
Sense of humour failure? Maybe, but that's how I feel about it.
>> Edited by manek on Wednesday 11th December 15:49
Manek - chill for Chrissakes!
I posted that earlier today when my admittedly challenged intellect was operating on a virtually flat AA Duracell!
I used the term 'gay' to describe, albeit abusively, the regulatory conceptualisation of those within the decision making framework, who are clearly too soft or stupid or both to realise that highish speeds just south of Glasgow on the M6 under appropriate conditions, does not warrant the employ of half of the Strathclyde armoured division nor it's equivalent force from the wilds of Cumbria.
It's an ignorant, sexist, biggotted statement but frankly, although I have expressed these themes in a moment of levity and now feel chastised by such liberal useage, I feel bound to retort ignominiously by exclaiming that I care not a jot.
Chin, chin.
I posted that earlier today when my admittedly challenged intellect was operating on a virtually flat AA Duracell!
I used the term 'gay' to describe, albeit abusively, the regulatory conceptualisation of those within the decision making framework, who are clearly too soft or stupid or both to realise that highish speeds just south of Glasgow on the M6 under appropriate conditions, does not warrant the employ of half of the Strathclyde armoured division nor it's equivalent force from the wilds of Cumbria.
It's an ignorant, sexist, biggotted statement but frankly, although I have expressed these themes in a moment of levity and now feel chastised by such liberal useage, I feel bound to retort ignominiously by exclaiming that I care not a jot.
Chin, chin.
The Limit on the M74/A74/M6 - Manchester is FAR too low anyway. Between Glasgow and Junction 8 (Strathaven) the road is relatively straight, somewhat hilly, and fast flowing, very few jams until the M8 is reached northbound, and southbound, apart from accidents there never any holdups. After Junction 8 - Gretna the road is hilly as it crosses the Galloway hills but not dangerous, and the steepness of some off the hills means that 90 is barely reachable anyway. Some corners are too tight for 70 in some of the wrecks on todays roads, but plenty of warning that there is a Tight bend and it shouldn't be a problem, as for the A74. It's in 4 sections-ish, each section is straight and there are a few bends, if you could call them that. No wonder people speed along it, the limit is Blatantly and outrageously TOO LOW.
As for the M6, well, why does it even have a limit?!
As for the M6, well, why does it even have a limit?!
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